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In article <2grtau$62m@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM
	(Cameron Laird) writes:
>Does CEPH (Centre d'Etude du Polymorphism Humain) need some
>automation help?
>[...] I know how severely a journalistic filter can degrade
>technical information, and so on, but it *sounds* as though some-
>one doesn't know how to automate Internet ftp or mail services.
>Is there someone closer to the scene who knows more of the story?
>Heck, for the chance to help out the HUGE mappers, *I*'ll get on
>a plane to Paris to help set up their node ...
>-- 

	>> Thank you very much for your help, but before to get a plane, just
	try to get files from :

   	 ftp anonymous : ceph-genethon-map.genethon.fr
         dir  pub/ceph-genethon-map
         or gopherize at gopher.genethon.fr
         -> Genethon Data
         -> Pmap
         or just click into your favorite mosaic client at :
  	 WWW : http://www.genethon.fr/genethon_en.html

        and read the current "policy".
	IMHO not really a computer related problem...

	and last but not least, for infos, requests, flames, etc
		mail ceph-genethon-map@genethon.fr
	most of the HUGE mappers staff read this.


Amicalement;

Guy Vaysseix (CEPH/Genethon)

It's been obvious from the start that the CEPH/Genethon people had a
good Internet scheme going  -- access by all the favorite protocols.
(and to make things even better, the good folks at the U.Michigan
Genome Center have provided WWW search facilities.
<a href="http://guraldi.itn.med.umich.edu/cgi-bin/ceph-to-html">Human Genome Physical Map</a> from CEPH-<a href="http://www.genethon.fr/genethon_en.html">Genethon</a> (at <a href="http://mendel.hgp.med.umich.edu/Home.html">U.Michigan Genome Center</a>)

But what is the explanation for the Cohen quote in the Science article
about "only 1 person sending out requests on the Internet"?  Was some
important context lost?  Did Dr. Cohen mean that there was one person
available for non-internet requests or for showing non-netliterate 
biologists how to get the data?  The incongruence between that article
and the excellent (and well net-publicized) net access has had me wondering
for days.

Hope someone can shed some light on this curious statement.

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

krobison@nucleus.harvard.edu 

In article <robison1.758271389@husc10>,
Keith Robison <robison1@husc10.harvard.edu> wrote:
>It's been obvious from the start that the CEPH/Genethon people had a
>good Internet scheme going  -- access by all the favorite protocols.
			.
			.
			.
>But what is the explanation for the Cohen quote in the Science article
>about "only 1 person sending out requests on the Internet"?  Was some
>important context lost?  Did Dr. Cohen mean that there was one person
>available for non-internet requests or for showing non-netliterate 
>biologists how to get the data?  The incongruence between that article
>and the excellent (and well net-publicized) net access has had me wondering
>for days.
>
>Hope someone can shed some light on this curious statement.
			.
			.
			.
The incongruity of that quote was indeed what initiated this thread.
I don't have a definitive answer, but, as was recently posted in
bionet.molbio.genome-program,

#We have received a number of inquiries about the availability of the
#CEPH-Genethon data.  The following message, dated mid December,
#was taken directly from the Genethon Gopher.  It explains CEPH's plans
#for releasing the information for the different level maps.  Dr. Cohen
#recently confirmed that all of the data will be available by anonymous
#FTP on the schedule given.
#
#Jane Peterson
#NCHGR
#
#          "As mentioned in the Nature publication (A first generation
#          physical map of the the human genome, December 16 1993),
#          routes will be submitted to exhaustive verification and will
#          be available by anonymous ftp as soon as they are checked.
#          This checking process will last approximately two months.
#          However, level 1-2 routes are already available by anonymous
#          ftp. Investigators interested in level 3-7 routes that have
#          not been checked yet can obtain them by electromic mail
#          requests addressed to CEPH-genethon-map@genethon.fr or by
#          fax.  This personal request procedure could delay the access
#          to these routes due to logistic problems that will be solved
#          within a few weeks. But even if the number of requests is
#          high, this delay will not exceed a few days for any request.
#          Based on an unfortunate experience on chromosome 21, we
#          consider now that the personal request procedure is the best
#          way to keep contact with the potential users of this map. 
#          Indeed, this will allow us to be informed on the progress in
#          checking validity of the routes and also to understand any
#          problem in using these data."
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