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In article <3v4gi4$ale@inn-amis.ami.alcoa.com>,
Chris Vernon <vernon02@ssw.alcoa.com> wrote:
>In article <3v3f2j$lrk@rebecca.albany.edu>, pb019@csc.albany.edu says...
>>
>>In article <3ulcqa$flk@upsn2.u-psud.fr>,
>>OGER  <oger@trefle.isv.cnrs-gif.fr> wrote:
>>>Hi Wolfgang,
>>>
>>>It is unfortunately the same in France. They are reducing both the
>>>number of grants, and their duration, from 3 years to 2 or 2 and a half
>>>years. They say two year is enough to get a Ph D! Probably in math and 
>>>computer science, but not in Biological Sciences.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately for us too, we are not allowed live on unemployement
>>>benefits, and work at the same time, so we are to work for free!
>>>
>>>
>>>Phil
>>
>>
>>In U.S., if you are a good basketball player (and especially a college 
>>drop-out), you become a millionaire. On the other hand, if you are a good
>>scientist (and especially work long and hard enough to be a Ph.D.), you are 
>>a loser.
>>
>>Oh yes, I forgot! Another way to make money in U.S. is by being a 
>conservative 
>>politician. You talk everything but science. People like that around here.
>>
>>And people don't like if you are a scientist and still talk politics.
>>
>I did my PhD during a time of belt-tightening in Australia and my 3 year 
>grant ranged from $4100 p.a. to $5100 p.a. during that time.  Come to 
>Australia now, guys - the grants are up to $16,000 tax free these days and 
>they seem to be just giving them away to anyone who wants them.  All of the 
>bright students seem to be deserting chemistry PhD courses and getting a 
>job!  Hence the higher rewards for those who couldn't find a job.  In 
>addition, it seems that while many employers LIKE to employ people with 
>PhDs, they often start behind bare degree graduates of the same age who have 
>"practical experience". 
>
>:-)  <c'mon, you know that I'm not referring to YOU personally> ;-)
>
>Chris
>


I truly don't know if these newsgroups are the appropriate places to continue
such a thread. However, I do think these discussions should take place, here or
somewhere else.