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Article #2369Re: req: nicotine info/alt rat poison
From: Rev Chuck
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
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Uncle Al wrote: > > Karl Magdsick wrote: > > > > Now that winter has decended on new england, the mice are comming indoors. > > It seems that I am never able to set the traps enough askew that the very > > small mice I have set it off. I'm using the smallest victor traps made. > > Hereing the mice in the walls at night sets my mind working. I don't want > > to use poison because the mice crawl away and die in the walls after a few > > days. They will rot and create quite a stink. I seem to remember hearing > > that nicotine is fairly toxic. I assume death is by anurism or cardiac > > arrest. How long does it take for an accute overdose of nicotine to kill? > > I could look up the oral LD50 of nicotine in mice, but this gives me little > > help in my situation. How can I estimate the dose requred give, say a 90% > > mortality rate within 30 minutes? > > [technical bloviation snip] > > If you have a mouse problem and you don't want poisoned vermin dying in > your walls, you don't use spring traps or chemicals, you get a ball > bearing mouse trap. The things are fantastic! Silent, deadly, > effective, no little bodies left lying about. > > Ours is a Ruddy Abyssinian tom named Flash. > > -- Is your "ball bearing mousetrap" an outdoor cat? Well, I hate to say it, but a lot of those mice were probably brought IN by your cat. They don't kill them immediately. They bring them back to their territory before settling down to a 20 minute "play" session followed by a crushing bite to the throat. Some of the mice escape in this course. No bodies in the front yard, either? One three-year old (and slightly psychotic) cat can turn ground under the hedges into a Khmer-Rouge style killing field by August latest. Guess I'll take your word for it.
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