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Article #2388Re: Ion pair equlibria, mathematical modelling of data - Please help
From: Gabriel L Pitts
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 08:46
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 08:46
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In article <1993Mar18.122756.24525@kth.se> tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE writes: >In article <1993Mar18.155857.898@otago.ac.nz>, alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson), University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand writes: >> >>We have been examining an ion-pair between eosin (anion) and >>cetylpridinium chloride (cation) (a quaternary ammonium compound) by >>spectrophotometry (542 nm) and are seeking to determine the ion-pair >>association constant (K). > >[...] > >>What we want to know is the ion-pair constants for both the 1:1 (K1) and >>1:2 (K2) complexes. Does anyone have a mathematical model we could use to >>calculate these constants, and if so, can we use it? > >This sound like a fairly standard evaluation of stability constants of >complex formation. (Nevertheless, the actual computation of several K's >simulataneously can be numerically very troublesome.) There are several >different computer programs that are used to evaluate this kind of data, >most commonly for ligand bonding to metal ions. Since this is a typical >inorganic chemistry thing, I would recommend you to contact the >inorganic chemistry department closest to you. I'm sure they will know >someone who has the appropriate complex constant evaluation programs, >and know how to use them. > >Tomas >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tomas Eriksson tomas_e@physchem.kth.se > Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry, > Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden > >"These latter-day practitioners of surface chemistry reflect a lingering of the >adventurous spirit of the Enlightment" -- Charles Tanford If you need help with the chemistry itself I would suggest the following ref: Ionic Equilibria in analytical chemsitry by Henry Freiser and Quintus Fernando. If you need just software to figure out your solubility equations than I suggest Mathematica. I have used this software to create programs which determine pka and pHs of pharmaceutical dosage formulations, which can get quite complex!! The last eqn I created was a quarktic expression! It took Mathematica, on a Mac SE/30, about 3 hrs to solve. Good luck
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