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Article #2491Re: Where is the chemistry newsgroup?
From: Matthew L. Bruce
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:00
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CNOTM Nominee Mark Tarka wrote: > S. Livesay King wrote: > > Mark Tarka wrote: > > > No User wrote: > > > > Mark Tarka wrote: > [snip] > > > If a person "signs up" for a particular newsgroup, they are called > > > ______________ (fill in your favorite word; more points for presenting > > > some official evidence for the use of that word). > > > > Readers and posters. > > No problem with that. OTOH, "member" is one who belongs to a group > or organization. Then "belong" is "to be part of or in natural > association with something." > > [snip] > > > > UPA is not DOS. Unauthorized canceling of messages is DOS. Flooding a group > > > > with spam is DOS (see above). A supersedes attack is DOS. Some people find > > > > UPA annoying. Some people find you annoying. Neither are DOS. > > > > > > And to date no one has claimed that there has been a denial of service. > > > > Uncle Al, the continuous canadian forger of Hormel Corporation's domain > > made just such a bogus claim. > > Your failure to present concrete evidence is duly noted :-) At > best, there was a suggestion of a denial of service, but not > via any Hormel domain. Haven't you noticed his blatant forgeries? > > > > > > > UPA is not off topic. Why? The FAQ itself says that 'sci.chem is an > > > > unmoderated discussion group inhabited by a diverse range of humanity' and > > > > 'discussion often drifts away from the narrow focus of the science of > > > > chemistry'. A bit. Furthermore, there is no authority to decide what is on > > > > or off topic. The Cabal (TINC) is too busy cancelling spam and there is > > > > insufficient slack involved to interest SPUTUM. Finally, this group > > > > dispenses technical information therefore the quality of that information, > > > > the intellectual prowess of the dispenser of that information, or the > > > > overall quality of the group are all on topic. Thus a response of 'idiot' > > > > to a detailed treatise on magic angle spinning with a 1500 word appendix on > > > > adiabatic demagnetization is rude but on topic. Also on topic are a post > > > > with the single word 'splunge' or a 500 line 'elements that start with T' > > > > cascade, which might be interpreted as a general comment on the level of > > > > discourse in the group. You want a moderated group? Try RFDing > > > > sci.chem.research. That idea didn't go over too well when somebody floated > > > > it a few years back, but maybe the UPA has changed the picture. > > > > > > Well, you've said little that is new. Of course, you're arguing that > > > personal attack is on-topic according to the FAQ. > > > > It is. Uncle Al uses it all the time. > > No evidence, buddy. Move along. Read his posts. Evidence abounds. > [snip] > > Do you deny Dr. Plutonium's right to post whatever he pleases in this > > unmoderated group? > > This is it? The Plutonium thing? > > First off, we are not required to accept bad science. Plutonium > was on the fringe, AFAIK, and his troubles are part of the > system here in the science venue. This process is what it takes > to rid the discipline of frauds or get to the root of a new concept. > A general consensus is required for science to move forward. This > is our "fantasy", one that can withstand close scrutiny. The fantasy > of the bungmunchers, for example, is not so immune from close > examination (fake names, addresses, etc.). > > Secondly, are you arguing that any topic can be introduced in any > news group? If so, you're a Usenet criminal. > > > Mark (Please respond...with rational comments, of course)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 100a20,ba4cecc82c53a091 X-Google-Attributes: gid100a20,public X-Google-Thread: f4886,ea3d9a28ab2cddc9 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4886,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,ba4cecc82c53a091 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 1160de,ba4cecc82c53a091 X-Google-Attributes: gid1160de,public X-Google-Thread: 10f7a7,ba4cecc82c53a091 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f7a7,public X-Google-Thread: 111a4f,ba4cecc82c53a091 X-Google-Attributes: gid111a4f,public From: Matthew L. Bruce <mlbuce@scunix3.harvard.eduu> Subject: Re: Where is the chemistry newsgroup? Date: 2000/07/27 Message-ID: <upk1osg07nkj4tauom5vf1fj43m8qju4t9@4ax.com> X-Deja-AN: 651627106 Distribution: electronic only Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: Big Red Ass #1 References: <260140ab4aaa2468707d026ffaaf9e94@anon.xg.nu> <3980B0B8.7F46@mcn.net> <aqe1osokrpv16oo15kp6994ma8os98u3q0@4ax.com> <3980C4ED.5A9@mcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Complaints-To: We Care <devnull@netscum.net> X-Admin: Usenet Administration <abuse@netscum.net> Organization: Big Words and Perfect Grammar MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.chem,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,sci.physics,can.talk.smoking,ott.general,alt.usenet.kooks