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Article #2546Re: d,l system vs. R,S system
From: lucasea
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:09
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:09
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<ib.mossin@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1154723407.301122.27420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > Is there any sense in using the d,l system instead of the R,S system > nowadays. The former seems a bit outdated. They're not overlapping systems. d and l refer to the rotation of plane polarized light by a compound, and speaks to the chirality of the molecule as a whole. R and S refer to absolute stereochemistry of one stereocenter, and are generally used with an indicator of what stereocenter is being identified--for example, 2R,3S-2,3-pentanediol. Obviously, if you have a molecule with only one stereocenter, either convention can both be used. To add further confusion, there are also D and L, which are used for sugars (aldoses) as an absolute indicator of stereochemistry, and refer to the configuration of the stereocenter right next to the aldehyde, relative to either D or L glyceraldehyde (if my rusty 25 year old memory serves correctly). I don't know if, for all sugars, the D isomer (same stereochemistry as D-glyceraldehyde, which rotates polarized light to the right) is the same as the d isomer (the sugar itself rotates plane-polarized light to the right.) There is yet another use of D and L, for amino acids, but I'm not certain how they're defined--probably relative to alanine, but I'm not sure. Sometimes the rotation of polarized light is the only data you have on a molecule (for example, a new natural product) that carries any information about the stereoisomerism, and so d and l are the only designation that makes sense. Once a molecule is better structurally characterized, either by a crystal structure or by synthesis starting with molecules of known absolute stereochemistry and using reactions of known absolute and relative stereochemical preferences, then designating each of the chiral centers in the molecule as either R or S becomes possible. Eric Lucas
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