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Lisa,
Have you considered becoming President of the United States and asking
their government officials to come sleep in the Lincoln bedroom?  If I'm
not mistaken-big assumption here-the current resident of the office did
just that...and we all know how much he cares "for the children", now
don't we...dod

Lisa wrote:
> 
> Dear Graham,
> 
> Thank you for replying.
> 
> Let me answer your last question first - Yes, _officially_ there are
> supposed to be "regulations", including "PLANNING REGULATIONS", - but
> Graham, please bear in mind the following two things:
> 
>     1. Malaysia is a Third World Country
> 
>     2. Malaysia is one of the MOST CORRUPTED country in the world
> 
>         - corruption is EVERYWHERE, straight from the TOP LEVEL
>           of the Malaysian government, down to lowly "regulation
>           enforcers".
> 
> The people here are essentially POWERLESS to do anything, because A. The
> government has the backing of the military and secret police, and they
> are not afraid of using terror to scare the people back in line, and B.
> The so called "DEMOCRACY" is a joke. The so called "ELECTION" was filled
> with frauds, with over SIX HUNDRED THOUSANDS voters found themselves NOT
> ALLOWED TO VOTE, because of "technicalities", and ballot-box stuffings
> happened almost everywhere.
> 
> So to answer your question "Are there no planning regulations in
> Malaysia ?" the answer is Yes, but they were NEVER implemented. People
> can get around with _ANY_ regulation if they STUFF MONEY into the pocket
> of the officers in charged of enforcing the "regulations".
> 
> Shell Malaysia is OVERFLOWING with MONEY. In fact, Shell Malaysia
> commands THE LARGEST SHARE of Malaysia's petroleum (gasoline) market. I
> do NOT want to make any baseless accusation here, but it isn't that hard
> to imagine Shell not using some of their overflowing pot of gold to
> fatten up some officers in charge of safety regulations and planning
> regulations. After all, one more Shell station up is ONE MORE MONEY
> MAKING MACHINE for Shell Oil Company.
> 
> Who cares about the safety and health of ANYBODY when MONEY is
> everything?
> 
> To answer your question "Is their no way of legally/officially objecting
> to this decision?" my answer is this - If I am RICHER than Shell Oil
> Company, there will be MANY WAYS for me. But unfortunately, I am NOT
> THAT RICH !
> 
> You see, the court system in Malaysia is corrupted as well. Even if I
> sue Shell Malaysia, they can throw my case out, AND THEN get the court
> to impose a HEFTY PENALTY on me, for "ruining the reputation of Shell
> Malaysia".
> 
> There _had_ been precendents before. In Malaysia, there had been cases
> of individuals making some remarks regarding some wealthy bigshots
> and/or big conglomerates, and the individuals ended up having FINED by
> the Malaysian court for MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR DAMAGES for "damaging the
> reputations" of those bigshots / businesses. I have to add that Shell
> Malaysia so far hasn't done this kind of thing yet, but that doesn't
> mean they will NOT do it, right?
> 
> To answer your question "Can the parents be mobalised/organised?" my
> answer is First, I have to find ways to EDUCATE the parents. Most of the
> Malaysians are NOT THAT WELL EDUCATED. Most of them don't know the TRUE
> DANGER for so many things.
> 
> You will be amazed (or TERRIFIED) with the way Malaysians doing things.
> There are SO MANY TIMES I have witnessed people SMOKING CIGARETTES WHILE
> PUMPING GAS, and even with EXPLOSIONS of gas stations (yes, there HAD
> BEEN SEVERAL EXPLOSIONS of gas stations in Malaysia !!) most people here
> still have much difficulties to understand the connection of SMOKING
> INSIDE GAS STATIONS and the EXPLOSIONS of gas stations !
> 
> I know, it _IS_ very frustrating at times, when I think about things
> like this.
> 
> One of the easiest way to educate the parents is by printing leaflets
> outlining the DANGERS of gas stations, and even the VERY ACT of printing
> leaflets can get you trouble (LEGALLY) in Malaysia.
> 
> You see, in Malaysia, there are lots of DRACONIAN LAWS in the book. One
> of the draconian law is the PRINTING ACT - that is, if you print
> something the government doesn't like, they can LEGALLY CHARGE YOU in
> the court, with trumped up charges.
> 
> So what can I do? Sincerely I do not know.
> 
> That is why I come online, to the internet, SEEKING IDEAS and HELPS from
> anyone who are willing to offer tips or whatever help they can offer.
> 
> I have to stress that I am NOT anti-Shell, or anti-ANYTHING.
> 
> The only thing I am trying to do is to CLOSE DOWN A SHELL GAS STATION
> that the SHELL MALAYSIA is building NEXT DOOR TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
> which has OVER ONE THOUSAND STUDENTS currently studying there !
> 
> I have written to Shell Malaysia, I have called them up, I have faxed
> them, I have tried EVERYTHING to contact them, but they (Shell Malaysia)
> has so far VERY SUCCESSFUL in NOT REPLYING. They have IGNORED ALL MY
> APPEAL, and they are deteremined to GET THAT GAS STATION (in final phase
> of completion) in OPERATION.
> 
> I do not know what you call it in the UK or elsewhere, but over here, I
> call it EVIL.
> 
> Anyone willing to sacrify the SAFETY and HEALTH of OVER ONE THOUSAND
> SMALL CHILDREN for money are NOT good people.
> 
> To me, NO AMOUNT OF MONEY can buy the health and safety of small
> children. THE CHILDREN'S LIVES ARE NOT FOR SALE, but so far, Shell
> Malaysia seems to think that there _IS_ a price tag on the lives of
> small children in Malaysia, and to them, the price tag MUST BE SMALL,
> because they totally DISREGARD the lives of OVER ONE THOUSAND LITTLE
> CHILDREN for just ONE LOUSY GAS STATION !
> 
> To answer your question "Can the school staff, or even the kids do
> something?" my answer is the school staffs have the SAME LEVEL of
> EDUCATION as most of the Malaysian people - that is to say, NOT MUCH.
> 
> And the kids? If their parents aren't aware of ANYTHING, who am I to
> tell the kids that their parents are IGNORANT ?
> 
> This sounds VERY HOPELESS, isn't it?
> 
> But I am NOT giving up. I STEADFASTLY REFUSE to give up, because I think
> what I am trying to do is RIGHT. I am STILL TRYING TO FIND WAYS, and IF
> ANYONE OF YOU CAN OFFER ANY HELP, PLEASE HELP.
> 
> Someone once told me that there may be environmental groups in Holland
> that may be able to put some pressure on Shell Oil's World Headquarter
> in Holland. I have sent an email to the Green Peace group in Holland
> three days ago, and so far, I have NOT received any reply from them. I
> hope they will reply me.
> 
> And in the meantime, if you, or ANYONE YOU KNOW, know of any group of
> people, inside or outside of Holland who may know how to put pressure on
> Shell Oil Company, please get them to contact me. I sure would very much
> need the help from ANYONE willing to help me.
> 
> I know, I know, I am sounding like a crusader, but I am NOT a crusader.
> I am only a simple person, in my twenties, just finished my education
> from the United States, and working for a small company in Malaysia.
> 
> Am I alone in my concern? I do not think so.
> 
> Four days ago, some one wrote a "Letter to the Editor" to a local
> newspaper "The Star" pointing out the danger of having a petrol station
> beside heavily populated area. Apparently the person was refering to the
> SAME SCHOOL I am concerned with. I have contacted the paper, trying to
> find out who was it who wrote that "Letter to the Editor", hoping that
> perhaps I can join forces with that person.
> 
> Unfortunately the newspaper did not keep any record of who sent them
> what. So I am back to square one, trying to deal with this matter on my
> own.
> 
> Anyway, here is the re-hashed blurb of what is going on:
> 
> Shell Malaysia, a subsidiary of Shell Oil Company, in Malaysia, is
> constructing a new gas station NEXT DOOR to an elementary school, which
> has OVER ONE THOUSAND LITTLE SCHOOL CHILDREN in attendance.
> 
> The gas station is in its final stage of completion, and I expect it
> will be operational in one or two weeks' time.
> 
> The elementary school's name is Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan (Cina)
> Sin Kang, or in short form, S.R.J.K (C) Sin Kang, and it is located at
> Thean Tek Road, in Bandar Baru Ayer Itam, (the locals here call the
> place "Farlim"), in the state of Penang, Malaysia.
> 
> What I am trying to do is to prevent the gas station from being
> operational, because I am aware of the danger of explosion of gas
> station, which may kill many of the little school children studying in
> the school building RIGHT NEXT DOOR, and in Malaysia, gas stations _had_
> exploded before, because of poor safety practices and non-existence of
> safety-regulation enforcement in Malaysia.
> 
> I am also worried about the health of the young school children, over
> one thousand of them, because their school building is ONLY 10 METERS
> AWAY from the gas station.
> 
> The chemical Benzene, which is HIGHLY TOXIC and also a proven CARCINOGEN
> to human beings, is present in gasoline. The boiling point of Benzene is
> 27 degree Celcius (80 degree Fehrenheit) and Penang is in the TROPICAL
> CLIMATE, which means, ALL YEAR LONG, the temperature reaches ABOVE 27
> degree Celcius, - reaches as high as 35 degrees on some days -, which
> means, for the school children, EVERY SCHOOL DAY they have to breathe in
> Benzene fumes generated by the gasoline station RIGHT NEXT DOOR, and if
> you multiply up to EIGHT HOURS per school day the children have to spend
> at the school, by the over 280 days per year, AND by the SIX YEARS it
> takes an elementary school children to graduate from the elementary
> school, we get an alarming result of 13,440 HOURS of BENZENE
> INTOXICATION for each and every of the OVER ONE THOUSAND school
> children.
> 
> With enough concentration, Benzene has proven to be able to kill A FULL
> GROWN ADULT HUMAN BEING in FIVE MINUTES, and we are talking about having
> over one thousand school children being subjected to inhaling Benzene
> fumes for over THIRTEEN THOUSANDS, FOUR HUNDRED AND FOURTY HOURS !
> 
> Let me ask any of you this: Is this reasonable?
> 
> Is it reasonable for The Shell Oil Company to subject over one thousand
> little school children for such AGONY, just because they want to make
> more money?
> 
> If you think it is NOT reasonable, I am inviting you to help out.
> 
> Please tell me what to do. I am almost out of idea of what actually I
> can do.
> 
> If you know of any environmental groups in Holland, please give me their
> contact addresses, names, telephone numbers, website addresses, email
> addresses, everything that you have, because I am thinking that perhaps
> I can enlist the help of Holland's environmental group into pressuring
> Shell Oil Company's World Headquarters, which is located in Holland, to
> stop their subsidiary in Malaysia, Shell Malaysia, from committing such
> an UNFORGIVABLE act of harming the health and safety of OVER ONE
> THOUSAND LITTLE SCHOOL CHILDREN by constructing, and soon to be
> operating, a gas station RIGHT NEXT DOOR to an elementary school, where
> the school children are getting their education.
> 
> In the matter of fact, I truly need all the help I can get.
> 
> If you can write to the people in charge of Shell Oil Company in your
> country, and Shell's world headquarter in Holland, demanding that they
> STOP the construction of the gas station their Malaysian subsidiary is
> building NEXT DOOR TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I would be VERY GRATEFUL !
> 
> If you can think of ANY IDEA you can share, please, PLEASE CC. me a copy
> at lisse@saintmail.net, because I am not usually subscribing to this
> newsgroup.
> 
> I thank any and all of you for any help you can offer.
> 
> Thank you, Merci, Gracias, Danke !
> 
> Most sincerely,
> Lisa
> lisse@saintmail.net
> 
> In article <K01d4.3881$J9.2342@news.indigo.ie>,  "Graham Caswell"
> <caswell@indigo.ie> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Lisa,
> >
> > Despite being globally branded, each national Shell company is a
> seperate
> > legal entity, being linked through the 'Royal Dutch/Shell Group'.
> >
> > You can reach Shell International Ltd. (whatever THEIR 'legal status'
> is!)
> > at the following address:
> >
> > Shell International Ltd.
> > Shell Centre,
> > London
> > SE1 7NA
> > UK
> >
> > Shell Malaysia Ltd can be reached at the following contact details:
> >
> > Shell Malaysia Ltd
> > P.O. Box 11027
> > Kuala Lumpur 50732
> > Malaysia
> >
> > Phone: +60 3 255 9144
> > Fax: +60 3 251 2957
> >
> > However, there are another half a dozen companies trading under the
> 'Shell
> > Oil' banner in Malaysia.  A list of these can be found at
> > http://www.shell.com/world/country/0,1452,1454,00.html
> >
> > Shell are currently in the midst of a marketing campaign that they are
> > calling 'The Profits and Principals Debate',  (is that Profits VS
> Principals
> > debate, I wonder?)  This is an attempt to rehabilitate their brand's
> > environmental image (tarnished after Brent Spar, the Nigerian
> disasters,
> > etc).  You can read about Shell's declared values and principals at
> > http://www.shell.com/values/directory/0,1224,1043,00.html .  I myself
> find
> > it very difficult to seriously listen to talk of 'values' from those
> who
> > push oil in a world of climate change.
> >
> > Finally, are there no planning regulations in Malaysia?  Is their no
> way of
> > legally/officially objecting to this decision?  Can the parents be
> > mobalised/organised?  Can the school staff, or even the kids do
> something.
> > With a good media and press release strategy, a few hundred school
> children
> > doing something interesting in protest would make a great newspaper or
> TV
> > filler.
> >
> > Congradulations on standing up to whatever group or individual is
> behind the
> > 'development'.
> > Good luck
> >
> > Graham Caswell
> > caswell@indigo.ie
> >
> > Lisa wrote in message <84u51j$rpg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> > >Hello to all.
> > >
> > >I need your help in finding information about Dutch environmental
> > >groups.
> > >
> > >I am from Malaysia, a third world country, and recently the Shell oil
> > >company in Malaysia is constructing a petrol station right next door
> to
> > >a primary school building that houses over ONE THOUSAND little school
> > >children.
> > >
> > >I find that act irresponsible and in total disregard to the safety
> and
> > >health of the school children, but unfortunately, in Malaysia, there
> is
> > >NO LAW prohibiting oil companies like Shell in erecting (and
> operating)
> > >petrol station right next door to highly populated area like school
> > >buildings or shopping malls.
> > >
> > >I have tried to contact Shell's subsidiary in Malaysia, but so far
> they
> > >have stonewalled me. On the government side, since there is NO LAW
> > >against Shell (and all other oil companies) in having petrol stations
> > >right next to school buildings, they (the government of Malaysia) has
> no
> > >legal ground to stop the construction of the petrol station that I
> have
> > >mentioned above.
> > >
> > >Since Shell's subsidiary in Malaysia is not respond to my plea, I am
> > >thinking of getting help from environmental groups in Holland to put
> > >pressure on Shell Oil Company's headquarter, which is located in
> > >Holland, and perhaps that may get their subsidiary in Malaysia to
> heed
> > >my plea.
> > >
> > >It is very possible that the Shell Oil's headquarter in Holland isn't
> > >aware of what their subsidiary in Malaysia is doing, but I have also
> > >sent emails to Shell's website at shell.com, but so far I have
> received
> > >NO REPLY.
> > >
> > >If you know of the name, address, contact numbers, web-address and
> > >email-addresses of environmental groups in Holland, I shall be
> extremely
> > >grateful if you can send me the information.
> > >
> > >If you reply to this message, would you mind CC: me a copy, [
> > >lisse@saintmail.net ], because I do not usually subscribe to this
> > >newsgroup.
> > >
> > >Thank you for reading, and thank you for your help !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >Most sincerely,
> > >Lisa
> > >lisse@saintmail.net
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > >Before you buy.
> >
> >
> 
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