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From: Michael Zeleny
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:08
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:08
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In article <1992Nov18.170839.29220@psych.toronto.edu> christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes: >In article <1992Nov18.042158.17562@husc3.harvard.edu> >zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes: >>In article <1992Nov17.214321.18500@psych.toronto.edu> >>christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes: >>>>Indeed. Logical reasoning tells me that if I walk out in front of a bus, >>>>I'll get run over. Does he mean that in the Far East this doesn't hold? CG: >>>LOGIC tells you this?!?!? Astounding! I'd love to see that logic. I've >>>always thought this was contingent; true, but contingent. The things >>>you learn on the net... MZ: >>Some people are vitalists; some are physicalists; a few gentle souls >>are semanticalists. Michael is a logicist, -- theirs is an ancient >>and venerable breed, and I fail to see any egregious fault with the >>views they espouse. Read more Spinoza, Chris. CG: >The issue to which I was alluding was not whether natural language could >ultimately be reduced to *some* logic. In fact I hope it can because, under >at least one interpretation ofthe problem, the question amounts to whether >there can be a theory of language at all. The problem is that the question >of whether one gets run over if one steps in from of a bus, cannot be >answered a priori, and therefore is not a logical truth (at least it can't >be derived out of any of our present logics). Tally-ho! Hmm... I dissent. The fact that one gets run over if one steps in front of a bus is arguably an analytic consequence of our concepts of *bus-hood* and *stepping in front of*. Consequently, it is knowable _a priori_. >-- >Christopher D. Green christo@psych.toronto.edu >Psychology Department cgreen@lake.scar.utoronto.ca >University of Toronto >Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A1 cordially, mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc10.harvard.edu!zeleny From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) Newsgroups: sci.cognitive,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.lang,sci.philosophy.meta Subject: Re: Commitment to logic; was ... Message-ID: <1992Nov19.010823.17595@husc3.harvard.edu> Date: 19 Nov 92 06:08:22 GMT Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov19.010823.17595 References: <1992Nov17.214321.18500@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Nov18.042158.17562@husc3.harvard.edu> <1992Nov18.170839.29220@psych.toronto.edu> Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc10.harvard.edu