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Article #405Re: John Searle
From: Sean Philip Engelson
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:02
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:02
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In article <1992Dec18.003427.2149@psych.toronto.edu>, michael@psych.toronto.edu (Michael Gemar) writes: |> In article <1992Dec17.015705.630@cs.su.oz.au> danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny) writes: |> |> >OK. If there are no differing causal consequences at all between your |> >sensation of colour and mine then I would argue that your sensation of |> >colour is the same as mine. What's the point in postulating some additional |> >property to make them different? (I still need a shave, despite my fondness |> >for the Razor :) |> |> The point is that there is no *necessity* that our sensations be |> equivalent, and indeed, that there is no way of telling if they |> *are*. There is simply *no* objective, scientific way for you |> to address my claim that what you see as a sensation of red I |> see as a sensation of blue. This is the problem... What exactly do all you "qualiaists" mean by "sensations be[ing] equivalent"? Under what sort of equivalence? One possibility is causal effects (either behavioral or mental), in which case Danny's point is mere tautology. Clearly you have something else in mind--- what is it? -- Sean Philip (Shlomo) Engelson Yale Department of Computer Science Box 2158 Yale Station New Haven, CT 06520
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Newsgroups: sci.cognitive Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!engelson From: engelson-sean@cs.yale.edu (Sean Philip Engelson) Subject: Re: John Searle Message-ID: <1gsp63INN8b6@FRIDGE.AI.CS.YALE.EDU> Lines: 26 Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Nntp-Posting-Host: fridge.ai.cs.yale.edu Reply-To: engelson-sean@cs.yale.edu Organization: Yale AI Mobile Robotics Project References: <1992Dec14.033936.11786@cs.su.oz.au> <1992Dec15.173641.17791@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Dec17.015705.630@cs.su.oz.au> <1992Dec18.003427.2149@psych.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:02:27 GMT