Re: Language versus concept

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From: DKleinecke
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:11

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On Sep 6, 3:16 pm, "Glen M. Sizemore" <gmsizemo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you for remaining polite under stress.

> "DKleinecke" <dkleine...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> On Sep 6, 1:35 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

> >> > > Since language is "the social art," the study of the use of language
> >> > > in society is a rather important part of the study of language.
>
> >> > Yeah, but it is largely orthogonal to the behavior of individuals. Not
> >> > irrelevant - just orthogonal.
>
> >> Exactly.
>
> >> You're not interested in the purpose and function of language (viz.,
> >> solidarity and communication), so you can offer little insight into
> >> language.
>
> > I snipped the rest because this seems to be an excellent little
> > summary of the problem. Unless I misunderstand the current behaviorist
> > position
>
> You do.
>
> (which I believe Skinner did not share)
>
> Most of the behaviorists left are, in fact Skinnerisns.

As in the case of Christ - was Skinner a Skinnerian?

Personally I doubt it.  But I admit most of my case is based on
"Walden Two".

I intend to ignore the rest of your response and open a new question:

Are you familiar with object-oriented programming?  The notion that
reality (or at least the reality that computer software exists in)
consists of "objects" that communicate by sending "messages".  To me
this sounds exactly like classical behaviorist thinking yet, so far as
I know, it is an entirely independent invention.

If I can use object-oriented programming as a model for behaviorist
psychology I think I can conclude that linguists have more (but still
very little) to learn from computer science than from psychology (or
at least its behaviorist branch).

Sorry about that.

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