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Article #568Re: Visual comprehension and reading
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:44
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:44
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On Mar 8, 6:33 pm, "Benjamin" <Benja...@verizon.net> wrote: > "Kalman Rubinson" <k...@nyu.edu> wrote in message > > news:0061v2t5agf1omv1bunkd38okpqc1hughc@4ax.com... > | On 8 Mar 2007 14:54:48 -0800, "Nicci" <n.m.ke...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > | > | >I don't agree that your red ball is > | >an hallucination....no more than > | >I would agree that Beethoven, or > | >Dickens or any sculptor, musician > | >or artist has 'hallucinated', I think > | >we call that having something > | >called 'imagination' Kal. > | > | Operationally equivalent > > Not-True. > > | even though you clearly regard the > | term 'hallucination' as pejorative. > > In the most-common usage, it is -- > because there's always the 'pre- > sumption' of "false-seeing". > > | The major difference is what the > | individual does as a consequence > | of the experience and, of course, the > | general value of the outcome. > | > | Kal > > When "the brain" constructs a "model", > the neural activation inherent literally > drives the production of microscopic > trophic modifications to neuron and > glia structure and conformation. > > Subsequently, these "micro-mods" > literally exist as "biological mass" > that enables 'the' nervous system > to "operate" upon them in ways that > are exactly-analogous to the way =all= > "mass" is operated-upon in physical > reality. > > It's how and why what one experiences > literally matters [use "matters" as a > verb.] > > Which is why your comments are not > only offensive, but Dangerous. > > You are trying to 'force' that which will > enter into others experience -- in order > to 'validate' what =you= have experienced. > > Such is unacceptable. > > k. p. collins Someone should take away all the punctuation keys from k. p. "Benjamin" Collins's keyboard.
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