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Re: Visual comprehension and reading

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From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:44
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On Mar 8, 6:33 pm, "Benjamin" <Benja...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Kalman Rubinson" <k...@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:0061v2t5agf1omv1bunkd38okpqc1hughc@4ax.com...
> | On 8 Mar 2007 14:54:48 -0800, "Nicci" <n.m.ke...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> |
> | >I don't agree that your red ball is
> | >an hallucination....no more than
> | >I would agree that Beethoven, or
> | >Dickens or any sculptor, musician
> | >or artist has 'hallucinated', I think
> | >we call that having something
> | >called 'imagination' Kal.
> |
> | Operationally equivalent
>
> Not-True.
>
> | even though you clearly regard the
> | term 'hallucination' as pejorative.
>
> In the most-common usage, it is --
> because there's always the 'pre-
> sumption' of "false-seeing".
>
> | The major difference is what the
> | individual does as a consequence
> | of the experience and, of course, the
> | general value of the outcome.
> |
> | Kal
>
> When "the brain" constructs a "model",
> the neural activation inherent literally
> drives the production of microscopic
> trophic modifications to neuron and
> glia structure and conformation.
>
> Subsequently, these "micro-mods"
> literally exist as "biological mass"
> that enables 'the' nervous system
> to "operate" upon them in ways that
> are exactly-analogous to the way =all=
> "mass" is operated-upon in physical
> reality.
>
> It's how and why what one experiences
> literally matters [use "matters" as a
> verb.]
>
> Which is why your comments are not
> only offensive, but Dangerous.
>
> You are trying to 'force' that which will
> enter into others experience -- in order
> to 'validate' what =you= have experienced.
>
> Such is unacceptable.
>
> k. p. collins

Someone should take away all the punctuation keys from k. p.
"Benjamin" Collins's keyboard.
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Subject: Re: Visual comprehension and reading
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