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Article #697RE: Turtles all the way down?
From: Oliver Sparrow
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 1994 15:47
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 1994 15:47
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A reductionist would say that a turtle is elementary particles all the way up. A biologist, by contrast, would probably prefer the quote the way that it is written: that to understand the system, you have to understand its high level functionality and, at best, the dynamics which this imposes meets the substrate related stuff half way a hierarchy of ordering. An evolutionary dynamicists (if such a job title exists) would be concerned with the involute complexity which led this actual hunk of matter to be where it is at this particular moment, seeking the most parsimonious solution and falling closer to the biologist that the reductionist. More "Turtles is where it's at, right now, man, but all is flux; like, wow, man. Deep." _________________________________________________ Oliver Sparrow ohgs@chatham.demon.co.uk
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,9155dcbb0c2b4a82 X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10ca9b,9155dcbb0c2b4a82 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ca9b,public X-Google-Thread: 10681a,9155dcbb0c2b4a82 X-Google-Attributes: gid10681a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-07 04:19:24 PST Newsgroups: sci.cognitive,bionet.neuroscience,comp.ai.philosophy From: ohgs@chatham.demon.co.uk (Oliver Sparrow) Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!demon!chatham.demon.co.uk!ohgs Subject: RE: Turtles all the way down? Distribution: world References: <36717t$nmg@portal.gmu.edu> <SWRA01.94Sep27121133@cs19.cs.aukuni.ac.nz> <SWRA01.94Sep29141953@cs19.cs.aukuni.ac.nz> <1OCT94.23513925@purple.cc.utexas.edu> <36nhk7$gmq@news.u.washington.edu> Organization: Royal Institute of International Affairs Reply-To: ohgs@chatham.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.27 Lines: 15 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 15:47:56 +0000 Message-ID: <781458476snz@chatham.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk