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Article #1062Re: PGP 2.0 and USENET
From: Gordon Burditt
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:51
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:51
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> It seems to me that there are only two really different schemes > on the list: Telephone Verification, and all the rest. What the Telephone verification doesn't work too well for *SOMEONE YOU MET ON USENET*. Actually, even meeting in person with exchange of ID, fingerprinting, genetic samples, retinal eye patterns, dental work analysis, etc. the first time doesn't work very well, either. What are you going to compare the results to? Unless you have access to some government's fingerprint files, and that person is IN the files, what have you accomplished? The second time, all it proves is that it's the same impostor as the first time. On Telephone Verification: you weren't going to believe that phone number your friend sent you by email, were you? So you look it up in the phone book. You won't find me in the phone book. You will find a fake name with my phone number (one which means, to me, "the caller asking for him is a scummy telephone solicitor"). It's probably hard to spoof my copies of the telephone directory quickly (but they do change something like every year or two, and you could probably get away with a realistic-looking but fake book delivered a few weeks before the real one), but spoofing a name in the "new listings" section on Directory Assistance is probably trivial, provided you have a place in the area to connect a phone. In-person meetings and postal mail verification have much the same problem. Of course, if you've met the person before and recognize him, THEN you've proved something, but now you're requiring a pre-existing relationship beyond "net persona". Of course, if whatever you're doing requires real trust (like exchange of large amounts of money, or conspiring together to do something seriously illegal), you probably don't want to do it with someone you don't know that well. They might be a thief or a law enforcement official. Gordon L. Burditt sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!west.West.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!wb9rxw!kf5iw!rwsys!sneaky!gordon From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: PGP 2.0 and USENET Message-ID: <Bv9BDL.2sr@sneaky.lonestar.org> Date: 27 Sep 92 21:51:11 GMT References: <9209221904.AA01142@news.cis.ohio-state.edu> <1992Sep23.182529.21715@cactus.org> Organization: Gordon Burditt Lines: 35