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Article #1169Re: Using genetic engineering for exhaustive DES key search
From: jgarland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:12
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:12
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In article <gH2JsB7w165w@works.uucp>, hacker@works.uucp (DamDum) writes: > lou@Cadence.COM (Louis K. Scheffer) writes: > >> >> While pondering the well known problem of DES cracking via exhaustive >> key search, I started wondering if you could apply genetic engineering to >> the problem. It seems like it may be possible. >> >> The basic approach would be to build a bacteria that acts as a DES key search >> machine. Each bacteria generates keys at random, decrypts the encrypted bloc >> with the key, and compares the result with the plaintext. If there is a matc >> it generates lots of a string of DNA that contains the key and a specific >> marker that binds to an antibody, and excretes the result. Otherwise it >> just keeps trying keys. >> Isn't one feature of genetic algorithms that they operate on a problem space that isn't flat. That is, I fail to see how there can be any 'goodness' test here except success or failure of a key to decode ciphertext into sensible output. This would seem to reduce the idea to a variant of exhaustive search. [This assumes that keys close to the correct key do not provide any information to the attacker as to their closeness (which is true of DES isn't it?).] John Garland jgarland@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!nstn.ns.ca!morgan.ucs.mun.ca!kean.ucs.mun.ca!jgarland From: jgarland@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: Re: Using genetic engineering for exhaustive DES key search Message-ID: <1992Oct13.084205.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> Lines: 27 Sender: usenet@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (NNTP server account) Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada References: <lou.717919152@cadence.com> <gH2JsB7w165w@works.uucp> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:12:05 GMT