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cjp@megatek.com (Chris "Systems Stud" Pikus) writes:

>cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:
> 
>> Don't forget the (ex-?) director of the NSA saying recently that he considers
>> good encryption to be strictly munitions -- something to be kept out of the
>> hands of the civilians.
>> 

>	Which is exactly why the people should have it; to keep the
>government honest. That is what the Second Amendment was all about. For
>the same reasons that the founding fathers wanted us to have firearms and
>munitions, they would also have wanted us to have secure cryptosystems.

>	OK, so it is a bit of a stretch. But I couldn't help but see the same
>arguments here on this thread. Requiring honest citizens to register keys.
>Criminals who will merely use unregistered keys for their work. "If crypto-
>graphy is outlawed, then only criminals will have cryptography."

>	Sorry, I don't want/intend to take this off on a tangent; just point
>out the similarities in argument and governmental intent.

>	And yes I do see a need to mount a concerted effort to prevent our
>beloved paternalistic government from legislating our privacy away. At this
>juncture, our rights are under attack like no other time in history.

>	 So -- the question now is -- what are we going to do about it?

I hear about people who say "Don't let them take away our rights," but
referring to people that were elected; and there is the constant "we-them"
regarding 'who is government and who is governed,' although I thought
it's supposed to be a 'gummint ... of ... the people' (?)

Map that onto this:  I used to spend a lot of time talking to my best
friend about how my marriage sucked.  I was told (after enough bitching
on my part), "Either do something about it, or quit bitching about it."

I hope my ex-wife is as happy as I am.

So, my point, Chris, is this:  If you have chosen to approve of
the method of selecting the government under which you are subject, 
either live with it or change it; if you have let it be selected without
your influence, you have chosen to live with it; and if you are sitting 
around as a spectator, then you should be very careful where you cast 
stones.

"Either do something about it, or quit bitching about it [keeping the
government honest]."

Only an opinion.

Regards,

Dave
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