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Re: Registered Keys - why the need?

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From: Tim Starr
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 09:45
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In article <1992Nov7.145606.1684@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
}But perhaps the more important point is that they could not do it 
}because it is illegal under Title 18 to tap without an order.  I 
}really don't see how some gov't agency could embark on massive 
}surveillance without someone finding out and throwing the books at 
}them.

As if the US government obeys its own laws!  They apply them to us, not to
themselves.  Shall we do a search through US history to find illegal taps?

}Another point about intercepts that seems to be misunderstood has to 
}do with minimization.  If the gov't is listening, they have to turn it 
}off if the conversation turns to something unrelated to the court 
}order.  They can periodically check, but even with a court order they 
}are not allowed to listen to everything. 

That's only if they want to gather admissible evidence for a trial.  If you
think that's all that the government does in tapping, you're naive.


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From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: Registered Keys - why the need?
Message-ID: <1992Nov8.094517.20255@genie.slhs.udel.edu>
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