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Article #1447Re: A Copper Balloon
From: Eric Hughes
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 08:41
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 08:41
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In article <1992Nov7.142220.1683@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes: >My question is: is this any better? worse? In a word, worse. Much worse. It requires more invasive monitoring that any previously proposal, it restricts the use of encryption, and it creates new bureaucracies. Re: "3-way Diffie-Hellman public-key exchange protocol" >The third party would be the service provider ... This new proposal is now a variant of the digital telephony bill. Note that the session key is useless unless the digital contents of the session are also sent. So now we have required participation in both line monitoring _and_ key generation. I would suggest that curious parties get a hold of the list of corporate opponents of the digital telephony bill. This list can be obtained from the EFF. It includes AT&T and most, if not all, of the RBOC's. >Obviously this would not work with PGP or any form of RSA encryption >which uses permanent keys. So if such a strategy were used, it would >constrain what protocols & methods could be used. Such a new law would also then make certain uses of cryptography illegal. All of these uses would pertain to cryptography as used in communications. The best use of cryptography is exactly for communications. Let me understate the case to say that this is undesirable. >... it might be better to just record session keys rather than >permanent keys. To summarize, we are going to record session keys and restrict permanent keys. Convenient, to say the least. Re: computer networks >much harder ... than telephone systems where you could >require that hardware products meet the basic requirements. Such a new law would also require a new bureaucracy to ensure that switches met type specification. Another market opportunity: Interop for monitoring equipment! >... no keys would be kept unless a court order were issued. Thus session key archiving would be another unenforceable crime. Earlier in her article, Dorothy Denning writes: >I'd like to suggest another possibility, which for want of a better >name I'll call the "copper balloon". It's quite clear that key >registration goes over like a "lead balloon". Let's see, copper has a lower density than lead, right? In that case this proposal should be named the "uranium balloon." Allow me now to address Dorothy Denning personally. It is the opinion of many here that any kind of prior arrangement for the monitoring of encrypted communications is inconsistent with the principles of a free society. I urge you simply to change your mind on this matter. To hold a bad opinion _per se_ is nothing to be ashamed of, and to change one's opinion away from such an opinion is honorable. No one will think less of you for embracing freedom. Eric
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!agate!hughes From: hughes@hermes.agate (Eric Hughes) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: A Copper Balloon Date: 9 Nov 92 08:41:15 Organization: /accounts/hughes/.organization Lines: 70 Distribution: world Message-ID: <HUGHES.92Nov9084115@hermes.agate> References: <1992Nov7.142220.1683@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hermes.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu's message of 7 Nov 92 14:22:20 -0500