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NOTE: FOLLOWUP SET TO TALK.POLITICS.GUNS
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In article <1dp5mpINNfat@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:
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>Yes and controlling peoples ability to commit violent acts is part of
>the solution- not all of it, part of it.
>Many of the guns used in crimes are stolen- stolen from all those law
>abiding citizens who never use them. And if there are more available to
>steal they are easier to steal.

Here in Chicago about six weeks ago, a Cook County Sheriff's Deputy was
charged with selling weapons illegally to gang members.
"Who will watch the guardians?"

>> If you simply don't like handguns, fine.  Don't own one.  
>
>I don't know about the original poster but I don't like them in your, or
>other peoples hands. Like you I feel that I am infinitely responsible
>and would never never misuse any gun I owned Unfortunately I do not
>have the same confidence in you, or others , and am willing to give up
>my utterly responsile freedom in order to help protect me from other's
>irresponsibility.

I don't have confidence in _your_ ability to drive a car without
endangering my life.  Please call the DMV right now and have your
license revoked.  Similarly, I don't think you can be trusted with
knives.  Please dispose of all your kitchen equipment.  Etc., etc.,
ad nauseum.

>> If you feel that they are just too dangerous for people to own, consider the
>>  numbers - there are about 200 million handguns in the US, and about 12000 
>>  firearms homicides per year, and 1400 accidental firarms deaths.  That makes
>>  firearms safer than automobiles.  
>> 
> Uh, hardly. divide the number of deaths by the number of times they
>are used, not by the number. There are "billions" of molecules of cyanide
>in the universe. That does not make them any the less dangerous when
>used.	

Fine.  I have used my guns well over 100,000 times, but I have yet
to kill _anyone_ with them.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

John Kapson   NRA ILA