🚀 go-pugleaf

    Folks,

    I'm reading this in 'alt.privacy', and I don't think that's quite
    appropriate.  Ditto on 'world' distribution.  Could we move this to a
    more suitable group (only ... no cross-postings).  Thanks much.

    However, while I'm here ...  :-)

    In article <1dp5mpINNfat@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, unruh@physics.ubc.ca
    (William Unruh) writes:
    > 
    > Clearly you are a believer in the maxim that if a solution is not
    > final and complete it is not worth implimenting at all.  ...

    I think what he was saying was more along the lines of this: your
    suggestion is not only not a final solution, it is itself a problem as
    bad or worse than the one you propose to solve.  Given the choice
    between the disease and your medicine, I'll choose the disease.

    > I don't know about the original poster but I don't like [guns] in
    > your, or other peoples hands.  ...  and [I] am willing to give up
    > my utterly responsible freedom in order to help protect me from
    > other's irresponsibility.

    Hmmm.  What if I don't feel you can be trusted with, say, a butane
    lighter?  Or a butter knife?  Can I ban those from all people?  Sorry,
    but I'm not willing for *you* to give away *my* rights.

    > > ... That makes firearms safer than automobiles.  
    >
    >  Uh, hardly. divide the number of deaths by the number of times they
    > are used, not by the number.

    Help me out here.  If I keep, say, a revolver in my nightstand drawer
    for protection, how often can I be said to have "used" it for that
    protection?  Every night?  Every hour?  Every minute?  Once in my
    lifetime?  Over a million U.S. crimes per year are thwarted by armed
    citizens, and in over 990,000 of them, the gun is not fired.

    Just keepin' things boilin'  :-)

    -- Keith

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