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Article #1697Re: the Right of Privacy
From: Uri Blumenthal,35-016,8621267,
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:36
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:36
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From article <1992Nov12.202606.22666@cactus.org>, by ritter@cactus.org (Terry Ritter): > If government agents *have* a warrant, would an attempt to prevent > their entry into a house be considered "legal"? Is secretly-held > information really different from other "effects" mentioned in the > Fourth Amendment? 1. No, it's not legal to prevent the entry of LE with a warrant..... 2. Yes, there is a difference between the "things" and "information". For example, I can't prevent LE from seizing my diary and looking through it (or my PC :-). But if it happens so, that my diary is encrypted or written in an obscure little-known language, I don't have to provide th LE with my keys, or disclose the language, or the plaintext. It just happened so, that until very recent times, most governments could break most of private citizens' encryption. Therefore it was not a concern for the gov't. Today anybody can get/write/buy a good encryption with almost 100% security - so some fools got scared and started devising counter-measures (as if indeed it were possible to drink a sea :-)... So again, you can under court order seize my PC, but I'm not obligated to tell you what's in it. If you can get that information out without my cooperation - lucky SOB you are. If not, too darn bad (:-). Actually, in real world, gov't proved it's inability to deal with real enemy ciphers (for example, see the case of Mr. Abel... His asistant used a nice fully-mnemonic encryption system (i.e. no PC and other incriminating equipment, just a pencil and a nice clean sheet of paper). FBI wasn't able to break it... It all was during 50-ies; Mr. Kahn thought, that it was practically unbreakable - I second his opinion :-). -- Regards, Uri. uri@watson.ibm.com ------------ <Disclaimer>
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!decwrl!ames!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!news.ans.net!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!yktnews!admin!aixproj!uri From: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal,35-016,8621267,) Subject: Re: the Right of Privacy Originator: uri@aixproj.watson.ibm.com Sender: news@watson.ibm.com (NNTP News Poster) Message-ID: <1992Nov13.193629.14615@watson.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:36:29 GMT Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <1992Nov12.202606.22666@cactus.org> Nntp-Posting-Host: aixproj.watson.ibm.com Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Lines: 37