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Re: Registering "Assault Keys"

#1764
From: Bill Gray
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:49
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In article <1992Nov13.190219.24894@dg-rtp.dg.com>, meyers@leonardo.rtp.dg.com (Bill Meyers) writes:
|> In article <lg5gu8INN1m9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums) writes:
|> [ ... ]
|> >	As for registering keys...why do law enforcement officials think
|> >they have a right to know what I am saying to another person.  It seems
|> >like this is an infringement on *freedom* of expression -- if my expression
|> >to another person *must* be subject to monitoring, is it really free?
|> 
|> 
|> Well, I've had a closer look --
|> 
|>         AMENDMENT I
|>         Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
|>         of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
|>         or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;  [etc.]
|>                          ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^
|> -- and it's perfectly clear that what they _meant_ was your freedom
|> to make a speech, e.g., when trying to get elected to public office.
|> There's nothing in there about other modes of communication, and
|> _certainly_ nothing about keeping secrets from the Government!

I suggest that the first ammendment will stand up no better than the fourth
and fifth.  The gov't will simply invoke civil forfeiture against those who
use cryptographic methods to conceal what it wants to see.  There is nothing
illegal about having a lot of cash on your person,  but that hasn't stopped
various LE agencies from seizing same.  Just so,  using encryption could be
seen as justification for forfeiture.

			"Verdict first,  trial later."
					-- The Red Queen

Followups to alt.privacy;  I don't read sci.crypt (it's beyond my feeble
math)
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From: whg@inel.gov (Bill Gray)
Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
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