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Article #1772Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
From: Alan Watt
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:27
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:27
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In article <1e1j01INNu7@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes: |> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes: |> |> >In article <1duqtuINNor2@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) |> >writes: |> >>Certainly when they framed the constution, they did not mean "free |> >>speach" as "You can keep any secret you want to keep". It means that I |> >>can in public say things and not be brought to court for saying them. |> |> >Why not? I can send any secret that I want through the physical mails. |> |> Because of legislation, not because of the consititution, ( or perhaps |> under the "unreasonable search" clause, but then unreasonable does not |> mean never) The Constitution is silent on the subject of cyphers. However, a reasonable argument barring government restriction on encryption technology could be made under the protection against forced self-incrimination. I think Mr. Baldwin's point is you can send a letter full of gibberish, and not be compelled to translate it for the authorities. The legislation you refer to derives directly from the Constitutional provisions barring unreasonable search&seizure, self-incrimination, etc., etc. It is clear that you can keep any information in your head, and not be compelled to reveal it. If you keep information on paper or a computer disk, the law permits the state to seize them as evidence, but it does not compel you to cooperate with the state in making a case against yourself. Further, If we're going to discuss what the framers might have meant based on the technology known at the time, then "unbreakable" codes were freely available to anyone. It wasn't until the work done by Friedman prior to WW-II that there was an effective attack on so-called "di-alphabetic cyphers", which were known going back (I think) to the Crusades. If you're going to argue that the same activity sheds Constitutional protection when it is carried out with new technology, then freedom of the press is only granted for goose-quill manuscripts and cold-set type in hand presses. -- Alan S. Watt Yale University Computing and Information Systems Box 2112 Yale Station (203) 432-6602 New Haven, CT 06520-2112 Watt-Alan@Yale.Edu
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy,talk.politics.guns Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gumby!yale!yale.edu!news.yale.edu!watt-alan From: watt-alan@net.yale.edu (Alan Watt) Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys" Message-ID: <1992Nov16.172735.7406@news.yale.edu> Originator: swatt@mickey.CS.Yale.Edu Sender: swatt%mickey@net.yale.edu (Alan Watt) Nntp-Posting-Host: mickey.ycc.yale.edu Organization: Yale University, Computing & Information Systems References: <1992Nov11.214859.26168@adobe.com> <lg5gu8INN1m9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <1duqtuINNor2@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <1992Nov13.205218.23256@igor.tamri.com> <1e1j01INNu7@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:27:35 GMT Lines: 44