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In article <1992Nov17.001009.26363@rchland.ibm.com> lwloen@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>Sure, concerns do exist.  Law enforcement has some hard problems.
>But, most of the Bill of Rights is _not there_ to make the job of
>the cops easy; it is explicitly there to make it harder.
	Bravo!!!  Thank you so much for saying it like it is!

>There's no delusion, here.  Use of cryptography by out-and-out 
>criminals _is_ beyond government control.  So, why is it that only
>law abiding citizens are under the thumb of law enforcement and
>only other governments and the mafia get to keep their secrets?
	Exactly!!  

>It is not in _government's_ long term interest to surpress private
>thought.  But, government on a day to day basis could care less about
>the long run.  Haven't you heard of "thought crime?"  The idea is alive
>and well and you seem bound and determined to help government 
>create and enforce it.
	Yes.  And the net.quislings are ready to be their handmaidens.
	

>It is probably true that the government can detect my use of crypto
>and throw me in jail.  That is a practical reality.  But, hey, no one
>ever said that the First Amendment ever came free.  Almost every
>freedom we enjoy has and will continue to have a few poor souls going
>to jail for it.  
	Thank you so much for saying this.  Maybe sacrifices for freedom are
	NOT just for pretty speeches on Veterans Day after all.  You don't 
	know how happy it makes me to hear you say this.  In the future very 
	little blood will be shed by freedom lovers but sacrifice will still be
	necessary.  It makes me very happy to see that there still are
	folks here that know that and believe in freedom.

>Rights are not free.  They have to be fought for.  Why are you helping
>the cops?  Why are you assuming they will win?  Why are you assuming
>their interests and yours always coincide?  Or, do you really believe
>that cryptography is inherently dangerous?
	Right on Larry.  You can't imagine how glad I am to see others
	take Terry to task for selling freedom short.


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