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Article #1903Re: Cryptography and P=NP
From: Seth Breidbart
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:27
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:27
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In article <1992Nov18.193900.20199@rchland.ibm.com> lwloen@vnet.ibm.com writes: >In article <BxvEF3.Kqw.2@cs.cmu.edu> Jiri Sgall writes: > >>(partial quote of James Annan): > >>|> And remember, proving P=NP doesn't necessarily mean finding such an algorithm, >>|> merely proving it exists. >>|> > >>Once you have the proof, you can easily run a kind of universal algorithm, >>which will be guaranteed to be polynomial > >OK, I don't know beans about P and NP. So, an elementary question: > >Do all programs of class P halt? Your "universal algorithm" seems perilously >close to the "halting" problem and I have never been able to eliminate it >from far simpler cases than P or NP. Or, is the halting issue kind of a >separate point/issue (ie, the solution is "P" when it works)? Each program in P runs in polynomial time, so it must halt. Number all the polynomial-time machines (by adding a clock to each Turing Machine); do this in such a way that machine k runs in time < n^k. The "universal algorithm" consists of running machine i until it halts, and checking to see if an answer is found. If machine k solves the problem, then this algorithm runs in time k n^k. If P != NP, then this universal machine might not halt. (More likely, it will always halt, but not within any polynomial time bound.) Seth sethb@fid.morgan.com
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt,sci.math,comp.theory Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!s5!sethb From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) Subject: Re: Cryptography and P=NP Message-ID: <1992Nov19.172719.1540@fid.morgan.com> Organization: my opinions only References: <1992Nov16.084503.10141@vax.oxford.ac.uk> <BxvEF3.Kqw.2@cs.cmu.edu> <1992Nov18.193900.20199@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:27:19 GMT Lines: 31