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Article #2056Re: Legal Stuff!
From: Arthur Rubin
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:32
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:32
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In <1992Dec21.203115.12176@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: >No, it carries two separate thoughts: 1. PGP cannot be imported legally >since it violates RSA's patents. Patents cover copying, possessing, >or use, and where Vesselin got the idea U.S. patents cover only >use is beyond me. 2. PGP cannot be imported legally since >it violates the Munitions Act/ITAR, which requires a license for >importing, as well as exporting crypto, and PGP contains IDEA. (1>) Do you have any basis for your premise that a computer program CAN infringe a patent? My understanding of the law (confirmed by some experts) is that, as we don't have algorithm patents in this program, a computer program alone cannot be covered by a patent. The program must be RUNNING on a computer before there is any infringement. (2>) We've gone through this. I haven't tracked the exception to the exception to the exceptions in the regulations, but it is unclear whether "public domain" (meaning essentially, published) crypto software is covered by ITAR. >Next Vesselin claims U.S. users may obtain PGP legally from a number >of U.S. sites, which he lists. He is mistaken. It is on those sites >illegally, for reasons stated just above, and ftping them to other >U.S. sites is just as illegal. It does not matter who did the >importing; possession of illegally imported munitions is illegal. >Maybe in Bulgaria what is physically possible is equivalent to what is >legal, but not in the U.S. See (1>) above re patents. Re ITAR, see (2>) above. In addition, it is not clear to me that possession of illegally imported "munitions" IS illegal. It may be, but the law is sufficiently unclear that it might not be. -- Arthur L. Rubin: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (work) Beckman Instruments/Brea 216-5888@mcimail.com 70707.453@compuserve.com arthur@pnet01.cts.com (personal) My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. My interaction with our news system is unstable; please mail anything important.
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