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Article #2142Re: Spies using PGP
From: Bohdan Tashchuk
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:43
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:43
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In <hmiller.724028396@lucpul.it.luc.edu> hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Hugh Miller) writes: >>> Other interesting note. He spoke with the FBI about the matter and >>> they indicated that they have also run into PGP. Once case involving >>> espionage. >>In hindsight, I guess this is quite obvious. >>If he sticks to PGP, which is in relatively widespread use, what's on his >>laptop is much less incriminating than if he had a custom encrypt/decrypt >>application. > I do not find this story obvious at all. Unless we are talking about >Burkina Fasso or Sudan, I doubt that any country would trust its diplomatic or >intelligence traffic to a product like PGP. Real intelligence and diplomatic >services have had practically secure computer crypto for quite a while now. >If most American corporations won't let their employees use software that >hasn't been vetted by the folks in their MIS department, I can't imagine that >an intelligence agent of a decent government would be permitted to wing it >with PGP. > It would not be above some folks at State or the FBI to circulate such a >rumor. Absent any specifics, which you are not going to get, consider this >story nothing but the usual _desinformatsiya_. > _Industrial_ espionage, now -- that's a real possibility. It's important for a spy to not be obvious. A custom crypto program is more obvious than one in "widespread" use. Mailing to boris@kremvax.Xussr is more obvious than posting GIFs (as someone else suggested). You didn't comment on this aspect. For a fictitious example, The Cardinal of the Kremlin disguised his messages as diary entries. That way he could plausibly deny that they were anything more than diary entries. We (readers of sci.crypt) have a belief that PGP is secure because we believe that very large numbers are "impossible" to factor, and that IDEA is difficult to break given frequent key changes. Perhaps the NSA and its counterparts have reached the same conclusions. In that case, it would be quite reasonable to have lower level spies (perhaps only industrial ones as you suggest) use PGP. I'm not really a student of bureaucracy but I'll suggest that Not Invented Here would be a bigger obstacle keeping an agency from adopting PGP than any weaknesses in it. There is a general consensus that real spooks disparage the use of factoring based cryptosystems, but perhaps *that* is disinformation.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!verdix!islabs!fasttech!zeke From: zeke@fasttech.com (Bohdan Tashchuk) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Spies using PGP Message-ID: <1992Dec14.054304.1311@fasttech.com> Date: 14 Dec 92 05:43:04 GMT Article-I.D.: fasttech.1992Dec14.054304.1311 References: <1992Dec10.064145.21209@fasttech.com> <hmiller.724028396@lucpul.it.luc.edu> Organization: Fast Technology Lines: 44