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Article #2251Re: Legal Stuff!
From: David Sternlight
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:58
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:58
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Since I don't like to argue for argument's sake, and since a recent development (see my post on the RSAREF license, and make what inferences you like about the imminent release of RIPEM) has made this discussion moot, from my point of view, if Vesselin wants to be right, he may be so. I think the issues have been clearly spelled out, and users, being adults, may do what they wish in full knowledge of the issues and arguments. As for me, my RIPEM public key is available on the server. Since I do not expect any cryptographic communications for any particular reason (though RIPEM users are welcome to send them), much less from outside the U.S., that RIPEM is not legally available outside the U.S. and Canada is of little personal moment. As for the understandable desire of many for universal privacy- enhanced communications, from my own personal point of view (WARNING-not "the truth" but just what I believe) there are several ways to achieve this which I would not have any questions about: 1. For PGP to be written from scratch in the U.S. to incorporate RSAREF, thus permitting communications between the U.S. version and any other while honoring what I understand to be RSA's patents and the Munitions laws. Such a rewrite could be used here, but not exported. I don't think there's a problem with exporting messages and keys themselves. 2. For RIPEM's cryptographic components (DES and RSAREF) to somehow be rewritten de novo outside the U.S. to be consistent with national crypto and patent laws, thus permitting communications between the U.S. version of RIPEM and any other. 3. For RIPEM to be upgraded in the U.S. to include IDEA, and PGP format compatibilty. 4. For the Munitions Act/ITAR regulations to be changed AND PKP's patents overturned (or expire). I think 4. is both unlikely and will take some time if it happens. My understanding of 3. is that if the RIPEM author gets many requests, he will consider it, but not otherwise. Note that a modification of RSAREF to handle certificates, etc. (if that's where it has to be handled in software) is not a performance modification under the terms of the RSAREF license, and thus requires RSA's permission. The license does say they won't deny such permission for "all reasonable requests." I suspect 2. is unlikely without some illegal export from the U.S. I understand some are working on 1., and the RSAREF license should make their job much easier. David
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.security.pgp Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!emory!cs.utk.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!strnlght From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) Subject: Re: Legal Stuff! Message-ID: <1992Dec22.215815.3172@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <bontchev.724943800@fbihh> <1992Dec21.203115.12176@netcom.com> <bontchev.725032635@fbihh> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:58:15 GMT Lines: 53