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Re: PGP as a World Standard

#2340
From: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:31
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strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:

> Paul Leyland posts a good suggestion if the existence of my key in
> Bontchev's key file were a crime to be remedied. It is not. It is an
> inconvenience to Vesselin, according to his posts, and he thinks an
> inconvenience to others. What is more, I did not export my key,
> someone took it outside the US.

As usual, David avoids to quote the appropriate message, when he wants
to twist somebody's words. Your key is not of any inconvenience to me.
I will not, however, remove it from my public keyring, until I get a
revokation certificate for it, regardless how this certificate is
produced. I thought that it might be inconvenience for you, not for
the others. More exactly - to your concsience, because you are trying
to convince us that according to you usage of PGP is either illegal,
or unethical, or both. Therefore, I proposed you to use PGP once more
- to revoke your key. Paul even suggested a way to do that, which does
not require that you use PGP yourself. Had you accepted this
suggestion, it would prove that you sincerely believe in what you are
trying to convince us. Now you have removed the last hope to
demonstrate even that and have discreditet yourself completely.

> Using Vesselin's own arguments, there's nothing illegal about my key
> circulating outside the U.S. As I read the section of the Munitions

Right. There's nothing illegal in about that. But because you were
trying to convince us that you believe the usage of PGP to be illegal,
we thought that you would like correct an action which, according to
your words, has been illegal. You refused, which clearly demonstrates
how much you believe in your own words...

> Act I quoted much earlier, there's even nothing illegal about
> exporting keys (though I didn't). It's the software, algorithms,
> flowcharts that are mentioned in the regulation.

Right, nobody has ever claimed that exporting encrypted information is
illegal in the USA.

> Thus for me to use PGP in the U.S. to revoke the key (which I assert
> would be a violation), would be committing a violation in order to
> cure an inconvenience that isn't illegal.

But you were offered the possibility to do this without using PGP
yourself...

Regards,
Vesselin
-- 
Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev          Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226      Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.1 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de    D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: PGP as a World Standard
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