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Article #2364Re: PKP/RSA comments on PGP legality
From: Bill Dorsey
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:05
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:05
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David Sternlight replies to Eben Moglen's article on the reality of the situation regarding PGP legality. He clearly believes that his own idea of ethics is absolute when he says, "Using PGP in the US. is wronging the patent holders and violating the Munitions Act." (sic) He continues his tirade by bringing up hypothetical situations with no basis in fact about how using PGP could impact one's life/career in a negative manner. Naturally, he leaves out the hypothetical situations in which it could impact one's life/career in a positive manner. Next he begins his feeble attempt to discredit Eben Moglen's ethical and professional standing. He makes a ridiculous comparison between Moglen's suggestion that one might use PGP until one receives notification from PKP directly that one is in violation of their patent and "to saying commit a crime, and if the police catch you, then you can decide what you want to do about it." (sic) This comparison seems to imply that he doesn't understand the difference between patent law and criminal law. I'm not a lawyer, so I would encourage anyone that uses PGP to check with an attorney, but my under- standing of the law is that a patent holder must notify anyone they believe is in violation of their patent before pursuing remedies under the law. This sentiment seems to be echoed in Moglen's posting. His attack on Moglen continues when he questions Moglen's statement, "I very much doubt that PKP really believes that the domestic circulation of PGP violates the ITARs" He claims Moglen is "winging it" by making this statement. He doesn't seem to consider the possibility that Moglen is basing this statement on his knowledge of the ITAR and the assumption that PKP's attorneys possess similar knowledge and are likely to draw similar conclusions based on legal experience rather than wishful thinking. He concludes his attack on Moglen by suggesting that Moglen's characterization of PKP's attempt to protect their property rights as a "temper tantrum" shows that Moglen must be a party at interest. This seems improbable at best. In fact, as Brutus' once said, "Methinks thou doest protest too loudly." In fact, Mr. Sternlights motives are drawn into question by his lengthly exposition on "The Ethical and Legal Reasons not to use PGP in the US." He backs up this possibility when he concludes, "I've been in communication with Jim Bidzos [of PKP] on a regular basis..." Not everyone shares Sternlight's opinion that "RSA has patents on a wonderful invention and they are entitled to the fruits of their work." See esp. the FSF's position on algorithmic patents for an opposing view. --- Bill Dorsey "Most people mistake law for justice and authority for dorsey@lila.com liberty. You will hear them talk of 'liberty under law,' ripem public key and they are content to see it so deep under the law that on request it is completely obliterated." -- Herbert Spencer
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!infoserv!lila!dorsey From: dorsey@lila.com (Bill Dorsey) Subject: Re: PKP/RSA comments on PGP legality Message-ID: <BzFvHE.po@lila.com> Sender: usenet@lila.com Reply-To: dorsey@lila.com References: <1992Dec17.215901.1948@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:05:38 GMT Lines: 49