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Article #2557Re: Stupid question time.
From: Germano Caronni
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:24
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:24
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In article <1992Dec22.222639.26141@cbfsb.cb.att.com> osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes: >Would multiple encryptions add to the level of security of, say, a PK system >like RSA or a knapsack scheme? What I mean is to encrypt the clear text and I will talk only about knapsack, as I am currently having literature around which covers that facette :-) It seems that, although first rated computationally infaisible (before Shamir did show a way to break specifc single-iterated knapsacks), Ernie Brickwell broke a knapsack-system of 40 iterations and hundred weights in the cargo-vector. (Taking about 1 hour of cray-1 CPU) E.F. Brickwell "Breaking iterated knapsacks" Procedings of Crypto '84 (vol 12, pp. 342-358) I do not know how much knapsack could be 'strengthened' by using independant keys for each iteration, but I assume knapsack is _broken_. >then encrypt the encrypted text, probably with a different key. If encryption With different keys. Using the same key more than once could cause trouble. (I guess the resulting operation would not be weaker than an only-once encryption, but does not actually need to be stronger!) Somebody with more theoretical knowledge, please tell us why this is so ;-) But I _guess!_ that using different keys, and the encryption mechanism NOT being a group (wasn't there some posting about multiple DES - encryptions which talked about the possible problems which did not rise in DES?) you actually create a wider keyspace. >offer the equivalent of encryption with very large keys (say, >10000 digits). At which computational costs ? I guess the method is good and slow .-) Don't take me for an expert, I am only doing this for fun, and speculating here. Friendly greetings & a happy new year, /gec p.s. there are no stupid questions. only stupid answers :-) -- Instruments register only through things they're designed to register. Space still contains infinite unknowns. Germano Caronni caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!chx400!bernina!caronni From: caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni) Subject: Re: Stupid question time. Message-ID: <1992Dec27.232424.24678@bernina.ethz.ch> Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH References: <1992Dec22.222639.26141@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:24:24 GMT Lines: 46