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Article #2619Re: DES (Was: Re: 800MHz Trunked Radio System Signals)
From: John W. Herman
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:48
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:48
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smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes: >In article <1992Dec30.121120.736@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes: >> I've heard the designers of DES made the code too difficult. The NSA, which >> apparently has to approve the encryption format, thought that code was too >> difficult, and purposely flawed the encryption standard. That's what the >> people in sci.crypt told me (I think it was them). Anyways, the sci.crypt >> newsgroup has some good info about DES and DVP, at least they did a couple >> months ago. >Yup, sci.crypt is the right newsgroup for this question, and I've redirected >followups to that group. But since the question keeps coming up... *** Lots of good stuff I agree with deleted. *** DES is certainly good eough for any application that does not interest a government. If a government is interested in decrypting any information you have, you should consult a professional. I have no idea how you might get in touch with one. One other point, any examination of the open literature regarding protection of sensitive information reveals that the easiest way to get access to that information is by corrupting someone with access. In commercial endeavors, this is frequently very easy since only money and honor are involved. Other popular methods are illegal entry and bugging of various types. None of these techniques require any cryptographic capability. (When was the last time you checked your mechanical pencil to see if it was bugged.) The crypto system is frequently the strongest link in a weak protection scheme. Lots of idiots and a few good cryptologists have looked at DES and no one has come up with any easy way to crack it.
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!manta!herman From: herman@nosc.mil (John W. Herman) Subject: Re: DES (Was: Re: 800MHz Trunked Radio System Signals) Message-ID: <herman.725755696@phage> Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News) Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA References: <djc.2x61@terapin.com> <92360.134725PJB113@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Dec29.180128.21441@anasazi.com> <1992Dec30.061944.7061@timesink.chi.il.us> <1992Dec30.121120.736@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <1992Dec30.185029.23262@ulysses.att.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:48:16 GMT Lines: 31