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Article #2743Re: Anti-spoofing protocol?
From: Phil Karn
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 22:20
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 22:20
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In article <1993Jan4.160546.11746@Princeton.EDU> dla@athena (Don Alvarez) writes: >Digital signatures won't solve the problem Robert is posing. The >problem is how do two parties transition from an initial state of >having no way to communicate securely to a final state of having a way >to communicate securely. Well yes, if you phrase the problem that way, you're quite right. But I interpreted the question as dealing specifically with the Diffie-Hellman key transfer phase, as it implied that D-H was useless. It's not, as long as you have the necessary verified public keys to verify your D-H exchanges. By the way, I find the D-H/RSA hybrid *very* interesting because it only uses RSA for signing -- not encryption. So the compromise of your RSA secret key can, at worst, allow someone else to pretend to be you in the future (assuming, of course, you aren't able to revoke your key in time). It *cannot* compromise anything encrypted with an old session key that was generated with the protocol, used and then destroyed. A very useful property. This scheme also has the advantage that it need not use RSA -- any digital signature scheme will work. E.g., *if* the NIST DSS were to become a freely usable, secure digital signature scheme, then you could use it instead of RSA to sign your D-H exchanges. And since the patent on Diffie-Hellman expires in 1997 while the patent on RSA expires in 2000, you'd be able to freely use this combination three years sooner than something based on RSA. Phil
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewsm!cbnewsl!att-out!walter!qualcom.qualcomm.com!servo.qualcomm.com!karn From: karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) Subject: Re: Anti-spoofing protocol? Message-ID: <1993Jan4.222023.6708@qualcomm.com> Sender: news@qualcomm.com Nntp-Posting-Host: servo.qualcomm.com Organization: Qualcomm, Inc References: <1993Jan4.090057.20269@netcom.com> <1993Jan4.104051.23477@qualcomm.com> <1993Jan4.160546.11746@Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:20:23 GMT Lines: 31