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Article #275Re: the Right of Privacy (was Re: A Trial Balloon to Ban Encryption?)
From: Jyrki Kuoppala
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 09:21
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 09:21
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In article <1992Oct31.055303.19034@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, fcrary@ucsu (Frank Crary) writes: >voice is, accourding the Surpeme Court ruling, protected. However, >this right ends, when it infringes other people's rights (thence >the regulation of megaphones in public parks), further you have no >right not to be _overheard_: If you broadcast your conversations, >the government needs no warrent to listen it. In this country it is illegal for the police to do surveillance on individuals (even on public places etc.) unless the individual is suspected of a specific crime. Now this doesn't mean a prohibition on police patrolling on streets (or following a Usenet newsgroup I would imagine by analogy), but a prohibition on police following somebody and gathering information just because they don't like her, ie. without a good reason (or a police officer routinely scanning all posts by me because he doesn't like me). In practice this has little significance, though - there's a specific "ATARI" unit (from Ammatti- ja TApaRIkolliset, professional and habitual criminals) dedicated apparently to just the prohibited act. In response to doubts about the legality of the atari unit, the official responsible for watching the legality of police action commented roughtly what I say in the above paragraph, but apparently the atari unit is still perfectly functional. Also the Helsinki police drug unit maintains a file of aroung ten thousand people, apparently including any anonymous tips, previous convicts or suspects and so on. People are removed from this file only when they die - and when the drug unit finds out a person from the file is dead, they promptly classify it as a "drug deaths" totally regardless of the real reason of the death. Gives some more money to them to have many drug deaths, I suppose. The legality of this file also is very questionable under the "personal data protection act". Then there are the spooks of course which are exempted of most of the laws limiting surveillance. (followups directed away from sci.crypt) //Jyrki
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.europe.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nntp.hut.fi!usenet From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Subject: Re: the Right of Privacy (was Re: A Trial Balloon to Ban Encryption?) In-Reply-To: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) Message-ID: <1992Oct31.092154.10501@nntp.hut.fi> Followup-To: alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.europe.misc Sender: usenet@nntp.hut.fi (Usenet pseudouser id) Nntp-Posting-Host: cardhu.cs.hut.fi Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland References: <1992Oct29.210436.19724@netcom.com> <1992Oct30.105044.4526@nntp.hut.fi> <1992Oct30.165406.5853@netcom.com> <1992Oct31.055303.19034@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 09:21:54 GMT Lines: 39