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Article #2767Re: DES (Was: Re: 800MHz
From: Peter K. Boucher
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:48
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:48
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cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes: |> If that $56 figure is faintly accurate, then I expect that the NSA |> must have some rather high-speed hardware, probably specialized to |> DES, that costs quite a bit less than anyone expected. I would have |> expected a somewhat higher bill. |> |> I can give some basic "blanks" to fill in: |> |> a) Number of messages processed: _____________ |> |> b) Mean Size of messages processed: _____________ (may be important) |> |> A * B = "total ciphertext" |> |> c) Cost of electricity and staffing, per hour, for the NSA "DES |> Breaker" computer: ____________ |> |> d) Average time to decrypt 1K of message on the "DES Breaker": |> ______________ |> |> Actually, one can probably get that $56 just out of figures b), c) and |> d). |> |> $56 = (b) * (c) / (d) |> |> I'm ignoring capital costs, in this analysis, but I'd suspect that so |> does the NSA. Governments don't tend to consider "capital costs" to |> be REAL costs, for a variety of reasons. |> |> And if anyone wishes to publicise the values b), c) and d), that's |> THEIR choice. Those three numbers are probably considered QUITE |> secret. You need single-chip search engines (custom-built IC, not standard DES chips) with a gate delay of 3 nanoseconds to get a 1-microsecond search time. You make a machine with 100 racks of 10,000 IC's/rack. in 1976, given economies of scale, each IC would cost ~$10 ($10M/machine). Allow a factor of two, for other hardware and you pay $20M/machine. Amortize costs over 5 years, and you pay $10K/day. 10**6 keys 10**5 sec 10**6 IC 10**17 keys ---------- X --------- X -------- = ----------- sec/IC day 1 day 10**17 searches ~= 2**56 searches = 1 exhaustive search. 1 exhaustive search/day at $10K/day = $10K/exhaustive search. These are 1976 figures. Even if we are optimistic by an order of magnitude, the cost of computation falls in 5 years by a factor of 10; in 15 years (by now) by 1,000. This results in a cost of ~$10/exhaustive search. (The preceding is condensed from a talk given by Prof. Martin E. Hellman of Stanford University at the RSA Data Security Conference, 1/17/93) -- Peter K. Boucher -- RIPEM public key available upon request.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!nntp1.radiomail.net!csl.sri.com!boucher From: boucher@csl.sri.com (Peter K. Boucher) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: DES (Was: Re: 800MHz Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:48:33 GMT Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International Lines: 63 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1jmumhINNe3d@roche.csl.sri.com> References: <1444.204.uupcb@ssr.com> <1993Jan9.163011.23230@csi.uottawa.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: affirmed.csl.sri.com