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Re: Any way to *CREATE* Vcr+ (VCR PLUS) codes??? (please read)

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From: Steven Bellovin
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 01:31
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In article <29342@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch) writes:
> But you can Copyright a table of numbers and show times that you publish
> (which is what they do).  However, it's questionable if they could claim
> infringment if you copied some of those numbers and times and re-publilshed
> them.  I'm sure however, that Gemstar would take you to court if they could
> prove that you copied one of they copyrighted listings, and let the court
> decide. 

It strikes me as improbable that they could enforce such a copyright.
The courts have ruled that to be copyrighted, a work must be a creative
act.  In the particular case I'm thinking of, it was ruled that a phone
book could not be copyrighted, since no creativity went into it.

In this case, there is creativity in how the numbers are created -- but
copyright protects the expression, not the ideas, and an algorithm is
not subject to copyright.  It may be patentable -- but as far as I know,
their patent has not yet been issued.
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Any way to *CREATE* Vcr+ (VCR PLUS) codes??? (please read)
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:31:32 GMT
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