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Article #2944Re: RIPEM and RSAREF available by anonymous ftp !!!
From: Perry E. Metzger
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 20:31
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 20:31
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strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > >Mark Henderson, writing from Canada, advises a Bulgarian National >writing from Germany on how to get the RSAREF and RIPEM files >without reading or agreeing to the license agreement. > >I think this is both a disgrace and a violation of ITAR. I would >not be surprised if it is also a violation of Canadian Law. Just one thing, David; in a very large fraction of the jurisdictions in the United States virtually any sort of sexual activity other than the missionary position engaged in by a married couple is against the law. Do you go about haranguing young couples you see on the street who aren't married (either heterosexual or homosexual) telling them that if they are having sex they are breaking the law and what they are doing is a disgrace? >Since I take this personally, given the efforts of many to provide a >free, usable, legal public key system for non-commercial use in the >U.S. I have copied Mark's message to the President of RSA, for what >action he may wish to take. Tell me, David, Do you go about finding married couples engaging in oral sex and turning them in to the cops? Do you go around turning gays in to the local District attorney? You honestly seem like the type. As you may have surmized by now, although you are a prudish bluenose, no one else here gives a damn about the ITARs. Any official of the US Government who actually believes that the ITARs serve to keep the "bad guys" from getting cryptography has to have taken more LSD in the hours before coming to that conclusion than Dr. Leary has taken in his lifetime. All the information needed to construct cryptosystems is available in the public domain and can be "exported" with an ordinary phone call, or even just by memorizing a few simple facts and crossing the border. Given the fact that the ITARs are next to useless, and that in fact there is no way whatsoever to stop the bad guys from getting cryptosystems (as has been demonstrated), most of us have long since chosen to regard the exportation of public information, regardless of the attitude of the US Government, in the same light as premarital sex or "sodomy", i.e., something we societally tolerate regardless of putative legality. You, of course, are the equivalent of the fundamentalist christian who harangues people even for having lascivious thoughts. Fine. Go off and preach to the walls. Leave the rest of us alone. You haven't a single supporter on this newsgroup. Obviously all your harangues have served to do nothing other than assure that you will never get a job at any company that anyone reading sci.crypt works for again. Now that you've successfully wrecked your own reputation, why not go off and bore some other people. We frankly no longer care. -- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com -- Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!shearson.com!snark!pmetzger From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) Subject: Re: RIPEM and RSAREF available by anonymous ftp !!! Message-ID: <1993Jan7.203117.15682@shearson.com> Sender: news@shearson.com (News) Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug References: <bontchev.726339031@fbihh> <C0GECK.2D@wimsey.bc.ca> <1993Jan7.043621.28202@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:31:17 GMT Lines: 57