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Article #3148Re: Fraction part of squareroots as one time pads ?
From: Robert D. Silverman
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:23
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:23
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In article <1993Jan11.223532.13477@ryn.mro4.dec.com> roth@3d.enet.dec.com (Jim Roth) writes: : :In article <1993Jan11.143125.24040@linus.mitre.org>, bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes... :>In article <1993Jan11.111351.7777@hsr.no> frank@hsr.no (Frank A Stevenson) writes: :>: question about using irrational root as a "one time pad"... : :>Your last point might be questioned. There are some good integer relation :>finding algorithms (Ferguson & Forcade, for example and improvements) :>that allow one to very quickly determine that the number is the root of :>an integer, based upon just the first few digits. Once that is determined, :>finding the rest of the key is trivial. : :>The same would be true for any ALGEBRAIC irrational. : :I know how to do this using a lattice basis reduction algorithm, (such :as LLL) but don't know the Ferguson & Forcade refrence - can you post a Yep. L^3 would work as well. See the following: :citation? (I think the "first few digits" would have to be on the See D. Bailey, H. Ferguson Numerical results on relations between fundamental constants using a new algorithm. Math. Comp. v. 53 p. 649 (1989) :order of the height of the underlying minimal polynomial, but that's still :not much info...) Yep. -- Bob Silverman These are my opinions and not MITRE's. Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730 "You can lead a horse's ass to knowledge, but you can't make him think"
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!linus!linus.mitre.org!gauss!bs From: bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) Subject: Re: Fraction part of squareroots as one time pads ? Message-ID: <1993Jan12.152310.12781@linus.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Nntp-Posting-Host: gauss.mitre.org Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA References: <1993Jan11.223532.13477@ryn.mro4.dec.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:23:10 GMT Lines: 37