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Article #322Re: Registered Keys - why the need?
From: Carl Ellison
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 21:20
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 21:20
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In article <1992Nov2.084229.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> leichter@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes: >PS: Much has been made in this discussion about the Fifth Amendment. The >Fifth Amendment does NOT protect "what is in your mind". It protects you >against self incrimination. The courts have always had the right to compel >you to reveal what you know about a crime SOMEONE ELSE committed - even your >closest friend. Even where "what is in your mind" might incriminate you, the >government can grant you immunity from prosecution and then compel you to >talk. To me, the biggest threat in the wiretap proposals and the FBI's earlier attempt to get back doors into encryption devices is that this wiretapping occurs in secret. The machinery is there to be abused, in secret. Even if it isn't abused -- even if the courts have ordered each tap -- the taps are performed in secret. If a Grand Jury orders *me* to divulge *my* secret key, I personally would probably do it because I have nothing to hide and prefer not to go to jail -- but I don't consider this a loss in the same category as allowing the government to spy on all of us in secret. I would never give up my keys to some federal agency ahead of time. That allows secret spying. The gov't might continue to do so -- via bug planting -- but at least we have hope that some future Watergate night watchman would catch them. Whatever we do to discuss ways to balance a court order for access to communications (given that such are legal in this country and a few other places) and a citizen's right for privacy, I'd like us to focus on making sure that whatever the Gov't does, it can not remain secret -- that it's built into the machinery (protocols, ...) that the audit trail becomes public knowledge in time to embarrass any elected government (ie., before an election) if they're abusing it. The same consideration could be given to databases of personal information (eg., credit bureau stuff). Cryptography is a tool for controlling access to information, not just for keeping secrets. We have *many* problems with information access having gotten out of control. Maybe we can get it back under control, thanks to crypto -- and, if so, maybe our own routine phone calls can be brought under access control as well. -- -- <<Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own, of course.>> -- Carl Ellison cme@sw.stratus.com -- Stratus Computer Inc. M3-2-BKW TEL: (508)460-2783 -- 55 Fairbanks Boulevard ; Marlborough MA 01752-1298 FAX: (508)624-7488
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!warwick!mrccrc!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!ames!olivea!bu.edu!transfer!ellisun.sw.stratus.com!cme From: cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Registered Keys - why the need? Message-ID: <7786@transfer.stratus.com> Date: 2 Nov 92 21:20:27 GMT References: <715.517.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us> <1992Nov01.233637.138278@watson.ibm.com> <1992Nov2.084229.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> Sender: usenet@transfer.stratus.com Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering Lines: 51