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Re: UUCP traffic monitoring

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From: Steven E. Rice, P.E.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1987 20:41
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In article <1982@hoptoad.uucp>, John Gilmore (gnu@hoptoad.uucp) writes:

> The problem is not that the NSA has machines on the net and reads the
> netnews on them.  The problem is that NSA monitors long-distance phone
> calls (this is not to exclude local calls!) over which netnews is
> transmitted.  For example, hoptoad's calls to utzoo in Canada are certainly
> monitored as they cross the border.

Under U.S. law, communications into and out of the United States are not
afforded the same confidentiality as communications inside the U.S.  While
the law requires a court order before mail may be opened or telephones
tapped within the U.S., anything crossing the border may be opened/tapped
without a court order.

This falls under the heading of national security.  The precedents go back
a long ways.

					Steve Rice

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From: stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: UUCP traffic monitoring
Message-ID: <4334@videovax.Tek.COM>
Date: Wed, 15-Apr-87 15:41:04 EST
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Posted: Wed Apr 15 15:41:04 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 19-Apr-87 05:30:25 EST
References: <870401-9823@nsavax.uucp> <2868@well.UUCP> <1580@husc6.UUCP> <918@laidbak.UUCP> <1982@hoptoad.uucp>
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