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Article #3559Re: DES info wanted
From: Simson L. Garfinkel
Date: Wed, 06 May 1987 21:01
Date: Wed, 06 May 1987 21:01
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In article <599@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> pkenny1@ub.UUCP (Pat "Hack #2" Kenny) writes: >2. Does anybody really know what the numbers in the S-Boxes are and where > they got them. This is classified. >4. Does anybody know about the DES and unix, I know they use it there, but > how much did they change it? A varient of DES is used in cypt(3) call (used for password encrypting). It uses different s-boxes so that you can't use a DES chip to break unix passwords. (Instead, you have to use Bob Baldwin's program.) >5. What does the NSA know about the DES that we don't? Do they have a machine > to crack it? This is also classified.
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!gatech!mit-eddie!mit-amt!simsong From: simsong@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Simson L. Garfinkel) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: DES info wanted Message-ID: <1059@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 6-May-87 17:01:40 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-amt.1059 Posted: Wed May 6 17:01:40 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 9-May-87 01:07:16 EDT References: <2071@hoptoad.uucp> <599@umnd-cs.D.UMN.EDU> Reply-To: simsong@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Simson L. Garfinkel) Distribution: world Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA Lines: 17 Keywords: DES, uses other