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From: francois.grieu
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:15
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*   refused to take research money from the Pentagon because he was
*   convinced it would corrupt his research and undermine his independence.

When Stafford Beer monitored factories and banks to give the government
the necessary tools to govern the economy effectively, he chose to
monitor national infrastructure of the industrial variety.

However, even he knows what can happen
with cybernetic control in the wrong hands:

*   "Brain of the Firm", Stafford Beer, 1986, ISBN 0 471 27687 1
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*   If Project Cybersyn were altered, and the tools used are not the
*   tools we made, they could become instruments of oppression.

Unlike Stafford Beer, the NSA and FBI have been moving to monitor not
only our bank transactions, but also telephone, fax, Internet, telex 
communications of all people and businesses and with CALEA want that
capability given to them at the design stage.

Cybernetic-level monitoring of our electronic systems.

What are they trying to control?

What are they trying to exert MAXIMUM CYBERNETIC CONTROL over?

It is INSANE to design our systems for government monitoring.

It is a MASSIVE cybernetic operation, astounding in its scope.
They (obviously) are attempting to do this world-wide too.
It is a true cybernetic Beast, out of control and about to
devour the world.

In '1984', the ubiquitous 'telescreen' monitored everyone in their homes.

As I have demonstrated --- as if you needed me to tell you --- our phone
conversations are too private, too personal to be monitored in a dragnet
fashion. You find out everything about someone: who their friends are,
what their opinion is on a wide range of matters, whether and who they
are having sex with, the full range of somone's activities and emotions.

The telescreen in everyone's home: the telephone.

*   Main Justice, by Jim McGee and Brian Duffy, 1996, ISBN 0-684-81135-9
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Subject: @@@@@ as basically as Catherine waits, you can conduct the tissue much more widely @@@@@
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:15:27 GMT
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