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Article #551Re: Padded Data
From: Peter Wayner
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:26
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:26
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Webbge@che17.ncsu.EDU (Greg Earl Webb) writes: >I've seen some interesting posts here recently, but I have yet to >see the topic of padding data with garbage. It seems to me that >if you had an algorithm that would not only encrypt the data, but would >also insert random data into the original data (without following >a regular pattern) that it would be almost impossible for someone >to tell what was real information and what was just junk. Although >the size of the document would increase, the difficulty in decrypting >the message would also increase considerably. >The only problem I can see with this method is how do you insert data >in a non-regular pattern and still have the ability to remove it later. >Please comment on this type of procedure. I'm sure people have thought >on these lines before and would be interested in seeing what they have >to say...... > Greg Webb A guy names William Simon (email address: alain@elevia.UUCP) posted some stuff long ago about "braiding" messages. Essentially you took two streams of data (a and b) and a pseudo-random source. Everytime a 1 came from the source you took a block of data from a and everytime a 0 came from the pseudo-random source you took a block of data from b. Reconstructing a and b is possible if you have the same pseudo-random bit stream. There were long debates about how easy it is to reconstruct this, but Simon showed that it was equivalent to the one-time pad. (I believe he assumed that a and b had "random" patterns. Obviously if a is all zeros and b is all ones, then reconstruction is simple.) In the other direction, a fellow named Dave August once wrote a paper for Cryptologia (circa 1987) about the technique of deleting random letters from a plaintext message. The redundancy of English left the message still readable. -Peter -- Peter Wayner Department of Computer Science Cornell Univ. Ithaca, NY 14850 EMail:wayner@cs.cornell.edu Office: 607-255-9202 or 255-1008 Home: 116 Oak Ave, Ithaca, NY 14850 Phone: 607-277-6678
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!wayner From: wayner@cs.cornell.edu (Peter Wayner) Subject: Re: Padded Data Message-ID: <1992Jul31.172627.1876@cs.cornell.edu> Keywords: pascal crypt Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 References: <1992Jul31.135011.14195@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1992Jul31.153719.28374@ncsu.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:26:27 GMT Lines: 44