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across "The Leon Charney Show".

Attorney Charney was interviewing Attorney Loftus, who has many many
connections in the intelligence world.

Mr. Loftus described a room in NSA's Fort Meade that was actually British
soil (diplomatic territory), with a British guard posted outside...


: From: guy@panix.com [updated here 5/25/97]
: Subject: Re: Threaten U.S. Domestic ECHELON
: Newsgroups: alt.cypherpunks,talk.politics.crypto,comp.org.eff.talk
: Organization: NYC, Third Planet From the Sun
: 
: This is a heavily annotated book.
: 
: Massive domestic spying by the NSA.
: 
: Including our phone calls.
: 
: *   "The Secret War Against the Jews"
: *   Authors: John Loftus and Mark Aarons
: *   ISBN 0-312-11057-X, 1994
: *   
: *   In 1943 this resulted in the Britain-USA (Brusa) agreement to merge
: *   the Communications Intelligence (COMINT) agencies of both governments.
: *   
: *   One of the little-known features of Brusa was that President Roosevelt
: *   agreed that the two governments could spy on each others' citizens,
: *   without search warrants, by establishing "listening posts" on each
: *   others' territory.
[snip]
: *   
: *   According to several of the "old spies" who worked in Communications
: *   Intelligence, the NSA headquarters is also the chief British espionage
: *   base in the United States. The presence of British wiretappers at the
: *   keyboards of American eavesdropping computers is a closely guarded
: *   secret, one that very few people in the intelligence community have
: *   been aware of, but it is true.
: *   
: *   An American historian, David Kahn, first stumbled onto a corne