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From: francois.grieu
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:52
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:52
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many nuclear strategists, that war was not * methodologically distinguishable from economics. The process whereby you * analyzed, managed, and controlled an economy was not essentially different * from the way you managed a war, except that one was an economy of produc- * tion and the other was an economy of force. The principal underlying both * was the doctrine of efficiency: maximizing the benefits received from the * efforts and expenditures---a cost benefit analysis. Cyberneticians hope to use their capabilities for the betterment of the human race, of which they are a part. They are not naive when it comes to the government and politics, either. * "The Rise of the Computer State", David Burnham, 1984 * * Norbert Wiener, the MIT professor who is generally credited with being * one of the principal minds behind the development of the computer, * refused to take research money from the Pentagon because he was * convinced it would corrupt his research and undermine his independence. When Stafford Beer monitored factories and banks to give the government the necessary tools to govern the economy effectively, he chose to monitor national infrastructure of the industrial variety. However, even he knows what can happen with cybernetic control in the wrong hands: * "Brain of the Firm", Stafford Beer, 1986, ISBN 0 471 27687 1 * * If Project Cybersyn were altered, and the tools used are not the * tools we made, they could become instruments of oppression. Unlike Stafford Beer, the NSA and FBI have been moving to monitor not only our bank transactions, but also telephone, fax, Internet, telex communications of all people and businesses and with CALEA want that capability given to them at the design stage. Cybernetic-level monitoring of our electronic systems. What are they trying to control? What are they trying to exert MAXIMUM CYBERNETIC CONTROL over? It is INSANE to design our systems for government monitoring. It is a MAS
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