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Article #6780Re: rpem: RSA patent questions
From: Dan Bernstein
Date: Mon, 20 May 1991 20:25
Date: Mon, 20 May 1991 20:25
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In article <1991May20.022740.24983@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> dennis@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Dennis Ferguson) writes: > I think I've missed the distinction between "implementing a patented > method" and "making a patented invention". Is there one, is this > covered elsewhere? In the case of method patents, the invention *is* the method. So let's compare your quotes: ``implementing a patented method'' vs. ``making a patented method.'' How do you make a method? The answer is that you don't. You don't make methods and you don't sell methods. You use methods. That's what a method patent covers. It doesn't cover making an implementation, or selling an implementation; the implementation is not the method. (In contrast, a patent upon an apparatus will cover making the apparatus, using the apparatus, and selling the apparatus.) > My understanding is that the second quote is all there is. If you > implement a patented method you've infringed the patent. No. > And yet > since I would be using a made-in-USA public-key system, instead of > buying one from Public Key Partners, it wouldn't surprise me at all > if Mark Riordan could be held liable for damages arising from my use > of his system even though it might be otherwise perfectly legal for me > to do so. As I recall, there are several decisions on this, all agreeing with you. Contributory infringement doesn't require the direct infringement to be in this country. ---Dan
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1038e3,c9c33f46c00840ee X-Google-Attributes: gid1038e3,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,c9c33f46c00840ee X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: fb57f,3639b4bbe55518aa X-Google-Attributes: gidfb57f,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-05-20 22:28:05 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cmcl2!kramden.acf.nyu.edu!brnstnd From: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) Newsgroups: sci.crypt,misc.legal,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: rpem: RSA patent questions Message-ID: <10670:May2020:25:2891@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Date: 20 May 91 20:25:28 GMT References: <1991May20.000757.16705@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991May19.184905.3760@hellgate.utah. <1991May20.022740.24983@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Organization: IR Lines: 34