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Article #797Re: ATM fraud
From: Jim Lyon
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 02:13
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 02:13
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In article <ARI.HUTTUNEN.92Sep9013737@supergirl.hut.fi>, Ari.Huttunen@hut.fi (Ari Juhani Huttunen) wrote: > > > It just shows that the current idea of an 'ATM card' is no good. We need > intelligent tokens and pretty damn fast. By 'intelligent token' I mean > a card that can be challenged by the computer of the bank. I've seen this > talked about in many books, so it's nothing new. What I would like to know > is that how soon such devices will be available? Will the patents on > public encryption prevent such devices for another 10 years? It's not patents that holding up smart ATM cards, it's cost and benefits. In order to find the *maximum* amount that any rational bank[1] would spend on a smart ATM card, divide the amount of fraud that you expect that technology to prevent by the number of cards outstanding. The last I heard, for the kinds of things that smart cards might possibly prevent, this amounted to about $0.10 per card. -- Jim Lyon "... where the work is NonStop, Lyon_Jim@Tandem.Com and we do everything twice." [1] A contradiction in terms, I know.
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!ames!pacbell.com!tandem!NewsWatcher!user From: Lyon_Jim@Tandem.Com (Jim Lyon) Subject: Re: ATM fraud Message-ID: <Lyon_Jim-080992191421@130.252.133.166> Followup-To: sci.crypt,alt.security,comp.security.misc,local.crypto Sender: news@tandem.com Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.252.133.166 Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc References: <1992Sep8.115050.8694@cl.cam.ac.uk> <1992Sep8.164652.1780@osf.org> <ARI.HUTTUNEN.92Sep9013737@supergirl.hut.fi> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:13:25 GMT Lines: 23