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Re: ATM fraud

#896
From: Ross Anderson
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:23
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In  <1992Sep11.160538.14966@osf.org>, Paul Karger (karger@osf.org) writes:

> I know of only two cases where the crook actually went to the
> trouble of building a phony ATM machine - one in New York City and
> one in Italy.   

> I've seen other cases where the crooks took a much simpler
> approach to robbing the ATM - namely they planted dynamite and tried to
> blow the machine up!!  There was a case in my old home town, and the crooks
> failed, because they didn't use enough dynamite - the armor plating on the
> machine survived the blast.

In another case I know of, the crooks broke into a bank branch and spent
several hours with a thermic lance going through the back of the machine.
They should have bought a manual first - instead of getting the crypto keys,
or at least the cash, all they managed to do was incinerate the cheque 
deposits.

There have been quite a number of cases in the UK of crooks using a mechanical 
digger to take the whole machine away. Sooner or later, one of these crooks
will not just take the cash but do some `practical cryptanalysis'. Maybe 
they already have and this is why there's so many phantom withdrawals,

Ross
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From: rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson)
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Subject: Re: ATM fraud
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