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Started by Tom Tedrick
Tue, 03 May 1988 07:26
Spy Satellites Again
Author: Tom Tedrick
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 07:26
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 07:26
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The San Francisco Examiner, Sunday, May 1, 1988, page A-15 in the article "Seismic detectors pave way to verifiable nuclear test ban", mentions "Satellites hundreds of miles in space that can detect ground objects less than an inch wide." Anyone care to comment? Thanks, -Tom tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: Phil R. Karn
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 20:29
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 20:29
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> "Satellites hundreds of miles in space that can detect ground > objects less than an inch wide." > > Anyone care to comment? Strictly speaking, this is a true statement. Most stars are far smaller than the diffraction-imposed resolution limit, but telescopes and eyes have little trouble seeing them, albeit as "blobs" that appear much larger than they really are. You aren't really "imaging" them. And I don't know whether this is relevant to seeing objects on the ground that only reflect ambient light. Phil
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: John W. Herman
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 21:11
Date: Tue, 03 May 1988 21:11
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-- I think the way the newspapers get this kind of (mis)information is to get some military type when intoxicated and bragging and then print everything said. Newspaper people have a reputation for gullibility. -- John Herman ARPA: herman@marlin.nosc.mil
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: Jim Meritt
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 17:28
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 17:28
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In article <23855@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
}"Satellites hundreds of miles in space that can detect ground
} objects less than an inch wide."
}Anyone care to comment?
I see no problem, as long as you can first heat said object to a
few million degrees first.
Otherwise, nnnnnnaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.....
Disclaimer: Individuals have opinions, organizations have policy.
Therefore, these opinions are mine and not any organizations!
Q.E.D.
jwm@aplvax.jhuapl.edu 128.244.65.5 (James W. Meritt)
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: Vulture of Light
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 21:22
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 21:22
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In article karn@thumper.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) writes: > "Satellites hundreds of miles in space that can detect ground > objects less than an inch wide." > > Anyone care to comment? On a television program I saw a purported satellite image of a ~ square foot region that was pretty clear. Although I can imagine the TV people mixing it up with something from a surveillance aircraft. Also, the U.S. monitors space junk probably much smaller than 1 inch. Each piece is a potential missile or something to rip through a shuttle or whathaveyou.
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: doug-merritt
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 22:00
Date: Wed, 04 May 1988 22:00
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I'm not so sure that it *is* misinformation. For some years now
I've seen a multitude of references to the ability to read car
license plates from orbit.
Doug
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: Jim Meritt
Date: Thu, 05 May 1988 15:36
Date: Thu, 05 May 1988 15:36
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In article <11962@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> trainor@lanai.UUCP (Vulture of Light) writes:
>In article karn@thumper.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) writes:
>> "Satellites hundreds of miles in space that can detect ground
>> objects less than an inch wide."
>>
>> Anyone care to comment?
}
}Also, the U.S. monitors space junk probably much smaller than 1 inch.
}Each piece is a potential missile or something to rip through a shuttle
}or whathaveyou.
I am inclined to believe that this detection is based on the ability
to differentiate the object from its background (i.e. none). An object
against the ground would probably be much harder unless there was some
characteristic which enabled easy separation.
Disclaimer: Individuals have opinions, organizations have policy.
Therefore, these opinions are mine and not any organizations!
Q.E.D.
jwm@aplvax.jhuapl.edu 128.244.65.5 (James W. Meritt)
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: jmm
Date: Fri, 06 May 1988 16:45
Date: Fri, 06 May 1988 16:45
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#include comments about space junk I would doubt they're using visuals for this task. Good enough radars can pick up small objects, but they can shine the radar equivilent of a flashlight up there to help look. You can't do that when you're looking at the ground and you don't want people to know what you're looking at. James Moore | Nil aon fhocal maith le cur sios jmm@bartleby.berkeley.edu | agam anseo inniu. #airigh "leithsceal caighdeanach" |
Re: Spy Satellites Again
Author: Doug Gwyn
Date: Fri, 06 May 1988 19:21
Date: Fri, 06 May 1988 19:21
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In article <5102@cup.portal.com> doug-merritt@cup.portal.com writes: >I've seen a multitude of references to the ability to read car >license plates from orbit. But what good is reading a license plate that has fallen off a car?
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