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3 total messages Started by Joseph Albert Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:26
translators at NSA
#732
Author: Joseph Albert
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:26
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Christopher_C_Lapp@cup.portal.com writes:

> I noticed a full page advertisement recruiting for the National
> security agency in the American Translators Association bulletin.
> Why would the NSA want language types?  I thought they did alot
> number-crunching and your average translator has had little or
> no math background.  Also, don't they have a whole much of
> Defense Language School types who have been drilled in every
> language imaginable?  Is the NSA just fishing?  Are they desparate
> for talent or what?

Well, for one thing, they need people versed in various languages
to work on cracking encryption schemes used to encode information
gathered via intelligence operations. For example, if you were an expert
cryptographer, and were trying to break a cryptosystem used to encipher
Russian text, how would you know when you have obtained plausible
Russian prose unless you were fluent in Russian? I know someone who
is fluent in Polish who worked for the NSA in that capacity, that is
worked with a cryptographer. I suspect that the NSA hires *many*
such people.

Joseph Albert
albert@hplabs.hp.com
Re: translators at NSA
#782
Author: Robert L Ullmann
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:06
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Hi,

More likely, NSA wants language experts to translate papers
on (e.g.) cryptography from open sources that are not otherwise
accessible to their experts whom, as you point out, are trained
in other fields, and not necessarily fluent in the requisite
languages.

Note that one attribute of the NSA is that they are charged
with knowing and monitoring *everything* in their field. If a paper
is published in Tamil about some odd mathematical theory, making
that paper available to their researchers is an imperative.

Rob
--
Robert Ullmann		Ariel@World.STD.COM	+1 508 879 6994 x226
Quand Maigret poussa la porte du Tabac Fontaine, vers une heure et demie,
le patron du bar, qui venait de se lever, descendait lentement un escalier
en colima çon qui s'amor çait dans l'arri ère-salle. ... Arriv é derri ère le
comptoir, il repousa le gar çon d'un geste n égligent de la main, saisit
une bouteille de vin blanc, un verre, m élangea au vin d l'eau min érale et,
la t ête renvers ée en arri ère, se gargarisa.  -- Simenon
Re: translators at NSA
#798
Author: Louis A. Mamakos
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:43
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In article <Bt5KAH.M73@world.std.com> ariel@world.std.com (Robert L Ullmann) writes:
>Hi,
>
>More likely, NSA wants language experts to translate papers
>on (e.g.) cryptography from open sources that are not otherwise
>accessible to their experts whom, as you point out, are trained
>in other fields, and not necessarily fluent in the requisite
>languages.

I think this discussion is missing probably the most obvious use of
foreign language translators.. translating voice intercepts!  Not all
communication is done digitally.  People use phones and radios all
over the world.

I grew up and went to high school very close to NSA.  In fact, my
junior high school was on Fort Meade, and our bus used to ride through
their parking lot every day.  They are one of the larger employers of
foreign language majors out of school in the area.

They've also got thie really cool building that we got to watch being
built which has looks to have a copper conductive surface.  I guess if
you build a tempest building, you can buy cheaper hardware to put IN
the building!

louie
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