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Started by WHMurray
Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:45
Trusted Path
Author: WHMurray
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:45
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:45
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Sorry Paul, trusted path as in the orange book relies upon a trusted
terminal. It does not protect against the kind of attack descirbed.
Defense against that attack requires rue peer-to-peer authentication
that is independent of the terminal and resistant to playbacks.
Regards, Bill
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Re: Trusted Path
Author: Paul A. Karger
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 14:11
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 14:11
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In article <920908214524.887195@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL>, WHMurray@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes: |> |> Sorry Paul, trusted path as in the orange book relies upon a trusted |> terminal. It does not protect against the kind of attack descirbed. |> Defense against that attack requires rue peer-to-peer authentication |> that is independent of the terminal and resistant to playbacks. |> |> Regards, Bill |> ____________________________________________________________________ |> William Hugh Murray 203-966-4769 |> Information System Security 203-326-1833 (CELLULAR) |> Consultant to Deloitte & Touche ARPA: WHMurray@DOCKMASTER |> MCI-Mail: 315-8580 |> TELEX: 6503158580 |> FAX: 203-966-8612 |> Compu-Serve: 75126,1722 |> 49 Locust Avenue, Suite 104 PRODIGY: DXBM57A |> New Canaan, Connecticut 06840 |> Bill Murray is absolutely correct here. I vastly oversimplified the issue. Trusted path is just part of what you need. Thanks, Bill, for catching me on that! What Bill is describing is a form of trusted path that runs over the network and provides a trusted path from my smart ATM card back to the bank's computers. The smart ATM card must authenticate itself to the bank's computers and the bank must authenticate itself to the smart card. If the terminal is suspected of being hostile (either because the merchant has bugged the point of sale terminal or because a false-front ATM machine has been constructed out on the street), then the mutual authentication has to use encrypted communications in both directions. DEC's DSSA architecture is one way of doing this, and there are many others.
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